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puggo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: the constant module
Subject description: ideas on how to use it?
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hello all!



after re-reading the manual and dissecting some patches..don´t know how exactly this little module works / or implement at my patches Embarassed

"This module produces a control signal at a selectable value. UNI
Selects whether to send unipolar or bipolar signals. In bipolar mode (button not depressed) you can send from -64 to +64 units in increments of 1 unit. In unipolar mode (button depressed) you can send from
0 to +64 units in increments of 0.5 units."


should I use it for example to "limit" control values?

suggestions are welcome and sorry for this noob question again

best,

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The output just has a value that will change when you turn the knob.

It could be useful for instance when you have a bunch of oscillators that are set to a certain interval but that you'd like to change the overall tuning off with keeping the chord the same. Just route the output of one constant module to the frequency control inputs of the oscillators in question and turn the knob on the constant module, now all oscs will change the same amount.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
The output just has a value that will change when you turn the knob.

It could be useful for instance when you have a bunch of oscillators that are set to a certain interval but that you'd like to change the overall tuning off with keeping the chord the same. Just route the output of one constant module to the frequency control inputs of the oscillators in question and turn the knob on the constant module, now all oscs will change the same amount.



thank you Jan! Wink

that little module will solve lots of headaches when using my "sinebanks" on the engine too

apreciatte your help

all the best,
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You can also use it to get midi control over anything that has a control input. (connect the constant output to the input you want to vary and assign the midi controller to the constant knob). Or you can effectively get an extra morph group by connecting one constant to multiple parameters.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

egw wrote:
You can also use it to get midi control over anything that has a control input. (connect the constant output to the input you want to vary and assign the midi controller to the constant knob). Or you can effectively get an extra morph group by connecting one constant to multiple parameters.


nice tips greg! thank you.

liked the idea of using it as an extra morph group, specially for multiple tunnings Wink

thanks a LOT

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

puggo wrote:


liked the idea of using it as an extra morph group, specially for multiple tunnings Wink

thanks a LOT

best,

pug


Here's a link to an article about this idea in the NM1 Tips n' Tricks section:

http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/014_Interesting_Threads/Folder/5thMorphGroup/5thMorphGroup.htm

BTW, if you haven't checked out this section before, you can click on the pictures of the patches and download the .pch file so you can try it out yourself. Lots of great info in that section.


You can also do stuff like use one Constant module to sweep a group of oscs up an octave, but make them spread drastically out of tune on the way up and then ease back into tune - for some of the oscs, route the Constant through a Shaper module set to EXP, for others, route the same constant through a different Shaper set to LOG, for others, route the constant directly to the oscs. They will all be in tune when the constant is "0", and also in tune an octave up when it is "64", but the shapers will alter the 'curve' of the constant knob so the various oscs wil be out of tune when the constant is somewhere in the middle of the travel.....

Lots of cool ways to process the 'shape' of the Constant module, using the wrapper, the clipper, inverters, etc. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

davep wrote:


Here's a link to an article about this idea in the NM1 Tips n' Tricks section:

http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/014_Interesting_Threads/Folder/5thMorphGroup/5thMorphGroup.htm

BTW, if you haven't checked out this section before, you can click on the pictures of the patches and download the .pch file so you can try it out yourself. Lots of great info in that section.


You can also do stuff like use one Constant module to sweep a group of oscs up an octave, but make them spread drastically out of tune on the way up and then ease back into tune - for some of the oscs, route the Constant through a Shaper module set to EXP, for others, route the same constant through a different Shaper set to LOG, for others, route the constant directly to the oscs. They will all be in tune when the constant is "0", and also in tune an octave up when it is "64", but the shapers will alter the 'curve' of the constant knob so the various oscs wil be out of tune when the constant is somewhere in the middle of the travel.....

Lots of cool ways to process the 'shape' of the Constant module, using the wrapper, the clipper, inverters, etc. Enjoy!


thanks (again) dave!! great tips / tutorial!

will try with the shaper as you suggest. I´m always missing these little but useful module functions

lot of clear now

appreciate your(s) time

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

davep wrote:
Here's a link to an article about this idea in the NM1 Tips n' Tricks section: http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/010_NordModular/014_Interesting_Threads/Folder/5thMorphGroup/5thMorphGroup.htm
Dave! You remembered Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hee!

It's old Nord Modular time again! Smile

You can also use the Morph to create a minimum and a maximum value of a parameter. But now you want to do this to 5 knobs seperately! And there are only 4 knobs (That G2 has 8 of them!)
No worry...
Take 2 Constant modules, a Control Mixer module (2 inputs - 1 output)
Connect each Constant to the inputs of the Mixer: channel 1 set to full, channel 2 completely down. Connect the output to the to be morphed input. Tweak Constant 1 to the minimum modulation (which isn't '0', otherwise you won't need this configuration Smile Anyway, that value is always at the modulation input. Set Constant 2 to the max and tweak channel 2 of the mixer to the maximum modulation you want. This parameter also gets the knob assignment.

Hmm...
Have to connect that oldie again...
Can I do it with only one Constant?
There is just one Mixer parameter assigned to a knob, so why not?

Wout
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
Have to connect that oldie again...


Seems nostalgia time ... I carried in my Classic again as well, and am using it in the radio stream jams ... found some really fun old patches too!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah...
Sigh...

Wout

Very Happy

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