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Pelle_punk
Joined: Jun 16, 2010 Posts: 26 Location: sweden
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:56 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to create sounds without a keyboard on a Arturia Origin just like a real analogue modular synth?
Greatful for answers!
Regards.
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:14 am Post subject:
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Hi Pelle!
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Yes you can. The trick I use is to set the internal sequencer to one step with no trigger. Then the sequencer start/stop button can be used to start and stop the sound. The envelopes will be triggered once when you press start and the other modules will be free running. When the sequencer loops, the envelopes will not be retriggered, unless you want them to by enabling trigger for the sequencer step.
This can be taken further by using more steps in the sequencer to generate 'control voltages', without any further triggers (unless you want triggering) to modulate whatever you want, with the accent envelope and slide available for refinement.
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Pelle_punk
Joined: Jun 16, 2010 Posts: 26 Location: sweden
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:30 am Post subject:
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Thanks for your response!
Great!
Are you happy with it otherwise?
Is it versatile?
Because I am looking for a synth that I can use to create odd and strange sounds but also to have the "normal" music
They sell it very cheap here in Sweden now (1300 USD)
and there are only two copies left ....
So i guess i have to hurry!
Regards.
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:36 am Post subject:
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I'm very happy with mine. I find it very versatile and good sounding. This is one synth I don't want to be without now
I know about the Musikbörsen offer - since I live in Sweden I tend to scan around "Du gamla, du fria" for good offers.
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:39 am Post subject:
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I moved this topic to the "Arturia Synths" sub forum.
DJ
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BobTheDog

Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 4040 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:44 am Post subject:
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Hi DJ,
Glad you like it, I was a little worried you might not!
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Pelle_punk
Joined: Jun 16, 2010 Posts: 26 Location: sweden
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:04 am Post subject:
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Okay, so you think it is good value then?
It seems a bit fishy to sell it for half price .... just thinking that perhaps it was not a success, this "box"...
Too bad börsen does not have a demo that could be looked at before buying it. |
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:18 am Post subject:
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Pelle_punk wrote: | Okay, so you think it is good value then?
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I reckon it's good value, especially that offer. I had to order without testing one myself... Be aware that both the printed and downloadable manual is a bit confusing and incomplete (a new one is said to be in the works).
Quote: | It seems a bit fishy to sell it for half price .... just thinking that perhaps it was not a success, this "box"... |
Before and right after launch the Origin was the subject of a thorough bashing on a few well known forums (not here!). Its functionality and construction was widely misunderstood and dissed by people not in the know. Some of it was due to a dislike for the company itself, and some was due to rampant Solaris fanboyism (the Solaris is a completely different instrument, and is yet to ship). I'm afraid that some of this hurt Origin sales. I think it's a sad story, as IMO the Origin is a very unique and good synth - a misunderstood gem.
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BobTheDog

Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 4040 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:20 am Post subject:
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Pelle_punk wrote: | Okay, so you think it is good value then?
It seems a bit fishy to sell it for half price .... just thinking that perhaps it was not a success, this "box"...
Too bad börsen does not have a demo that could be looked at before buying it. |
If I lost mine I would pay the original (pre special offer) price I paid again in a flash. |
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:26 am Post subject:
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BobTheDog wrote: | Glad you like it, I was a little worried you might not! |
Don't worry, be happy! As you might guess from this thread, I'm loving it! This is one for the connoisseurs
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Pelle_punk
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:44 am Post subject:
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I'll give it a proper think tonight and maybe tomorrow i will buy this fine piece before falling out of my hands.
Thanks again for all the answers!
Best Regards.
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jksuperstar

Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject:
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So, how does it compare to the G2? (if anyone dares!) |
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Antimon
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Sweden
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:49 am Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: | So, how does it compare to the G2? (if anyone dares!) |
I don't have a G2 (had a G1), but I know enough about the G2 to say that they don't really compare. Both are patchable, and that's where the similarities end. The Origin spends a lot of DSP cycles on some very smooth modelled algorithms, and delivers great modular VA sound with a bit of groove-box'ish instant gratification feel, owing in part to the sequencer and the front panel controls. It's very groove-box unlike in it's depth though. I imagine that it could be not a question of G2 or Origin, but of both - they do very different things Not requiring an external computer is a big plus in my book.
I think Andy has both - maybe he'll offer his comments.
@ Antimon : the polyphony quickly drops from the max of 32 with increased patch complexity. It's probably not the right box if massive polyphony is a priority, it 'stoo fun to build big patches. The Mini Moog template has 6 voices if I remember correctly.
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elektro80
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Joined: Mar 25, 2003 Posts: 21959 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject:
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I´m still very happy with the Origin. IMO, it really doesn´t make much sense to actually compare it to the Clavia NM/G range at all. The Origin is a different kind of beast. I still think it is hard to really explain well what the Origin is. The best way to figure it out is to actually try one.. or even better.. just buy one. You will want one after having spent some quality time with one. ( Easy math ).
What can I say.. it is a modern classic. All the great classic synths each have their own distinct personalities. Like the CS80, the PPG Wave 2.x/Waveterm combos, the Jupiter 6, the Octave Cat and the ARP 2600. Add the Origin to that list!
And it blends well with my analog modular.
BTW, I´ve started to suspect that the dotcom modular and the Origin enjoys some quality spooning time together whenever I leave the room.  _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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