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microman
Joined: Sep 17, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: uk
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject:
Nord Micro Modular Poly amount Subject description: Nord Micro Modular Poly question |
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Hey all,
I’m thinking of buy a Nord Micro Modular as I’m trying to get the Nord Lead 2 sound & more sound possibilities on the cheap. I have tried the G2 demo and I’m very impressed with what it can do.
For anyone out there that uses the NMM, if my DSP load is 50% what amount of poly would I get? Or put another way if I wanted to always get 4 note of poly what is the maximum my DSP load can be?
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v-un-v
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Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 8932 Location: Birmingham, England, UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:36 am Post subject:
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That's a really difficult question to answer, because if you are careful, and don't use the VCO's, you can squeeze much polyphony out of that little red devil. I once made a paraphonic string machine (5 note poly), using my MM. You can find it in the patch archives under the name of "terryfunken'.
Open it up to see what trick I used to obtain that polyphony. FWIW, using the same method in a much simpler patch, I squeezed a lot more than 5 notes out of it! (hint; Use a master oscillator controller wired to an LFO instead of an audio oscillator. You don't get as much range, and the sound is more rough, but it gives the whole little gem a whole new sound!).
oh yes,
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microman
Joined: Sep 17, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: uk
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:44 am Post subject:
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Thanks for the replay Tom. The patches I like tend to have the VCO mods, as I mainly use the nord lead 2's architect. I was mainly trying to see if 4 notes of poly would be out of the question with an average DSP load of 50%, if so this would render the NMM unusable for chords ECT. |
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egw
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:33 am Post subject:
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If your DSP load is 50%, you will get two voices on the micro. Yes, you can get more voices by carefully designing patches, but it's not really a good choice as a polyphonic synth. _________________ www.gregwaltzer.com |
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microman
Joined: Sep 17, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: uk
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:51 am Post subject:
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egw wrote: | If your DSP load is 50%, you will get two voices on the micro. Yes, you can get more voices by carefully designing patches, but it's not really a good choice as a polyphonic synth. |
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:44 am Post subject:
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egw wrote: | Yes, you can get more voices by carefully designing patches, but it's not really a good choice as a polyphonic synth. |
I'm sorry Greg, but what a load of nonsense. It all depends on what you define as a "good choice as a polyphonic synth", doesn't it? Yes, if you want a sugary clean sound, then fine, but if you want grunge..... And fwiw, I've squeezed sounds out of my Nord that no one has ever squeezed before!! (or at least, I can't get the same sound using the 'proper' oscillators. Heck, even Chet Singer would probably vouch for me here, when he started messing around with physical modelling- coaxing sounds out of this thing that others weren't expecting at all. AND all that noodling stuff too.
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egw
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:28 am Post subject:
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As I said, yes you can get more polyphony by carefully designing patches, but they will be limited. The original request was for something that sounds like the Nord Lead 2, with 4 or more voices. As a flexible sound generation device with a small form factor, the micro is unparallelled. But I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a general-purpose polysynth. _________________ www.gregwaltzer.com |
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microman
Joined: Sep 17, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: uk
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:38 am Post subject:
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Thanks for all the replies, from the info I have gotten, the NMM is not going to be of any use for me. I’ve decide to go with a Nord Lead 2 |
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trybtek
Joined: Apr 14, 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:39 am Post subject:
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Hi,
So Im looking at using a micro modular as a simple 3-4 note poly synth,
Im looking at making some very simple/80's sounding patches (Korg Poly 800 kinda brass/Junoish pads etc...).
If my patches are at 25-35% will i be able to play 3-4 note chords?
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Wout Blommers

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:41 am Post subject:
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microman wrote: | ... I’ve decide to go with a Nord Lead 2 | Surely this is the right conclusion. A second hand Lead is more offered on e-bay than a Micro, price about the same.
Clavia released Modular Patches sounding very much NordLead, but to keep the polyphony the same on an expanded Classic those Patches are cripple. It is just the sound, no flexibility.
And the Lead is a very usable synth
trybtek wrote: | ... If my patches are at 25-35% will i be able to play 3-4 note chords? .. | PatchLoad < 25% = 4 Voices; PL < 33% = 3 Voices; PL < 50% = 2 Voices and PL larger than 50% 1 Voice.
PatchLoad < 3.1% = 32 Voices. There are Patches which obtain this extreme situation
BTW these Patches also generate 32 Voices on an expanded 4 Slot Modular!
Wout
PS is there anybody who can explain why the text is scrambled?
PL <50> 50% 1 Voice. apears when 'larger than' is written as >
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trybtek
Joined: Apr 14, 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 am Post subject:
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Great thanks Wout!
Just what i needed to know!
Im just waiting for my micro to arrive in the post! sooooo dam excited!
I've been designing patches that should get me the 3 voices im looking for, but i just needed to confirm the little red bugger could do it, or i may have to re-sell it and look into a modular keyboard, but ill prob do this later down the track anyway!
i can just see myself getting hooked on building patches!!!!
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KarmanHardon

Joined: Jan 14, 2007 Posts: 142 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject:
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trybtek wrote: |
i can just see myself getting hooked on building patches!!!!
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I got mine not long ago and lost quite a bit of sleep these past few weeks... going through the fine tutorials and workshops.
Massive thanks for everything you did, Wout. It's worth as much if not more than the work NORD put in the machine itself!
NORD, you and a few other changed my sonic life forever. |
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject:
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KarmanHardon wrote: | I got mine not long ago and lost quite a bit of sleep these past few weeks... | Oh, no! Another victim...
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KarmanHardon

Joined: Jan 14, 2007 Posts: 142 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject:
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Well... it is such a powerful instrument that it can easily become a rather time-comsuming universe to explore... however awesome it is.
Last time I had one (a NMM) with me is when I did a temporary gear swap with a friend. I had two months to both explore a bit AND make music with it... and I did not waste any time. Now I own one, it's four times as powerful (it's a keyboard version) and all I feel compelled to do is read a bit of a workshop, then patch away until I realize I really should go to bed.
It IS satisfying, fascinating and fun. But damn, can you spell "sidetracked"? |
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