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Skrog Productions

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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject:
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looks great!
 _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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roglok

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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject:
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| great job! |
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mcop

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:39 am Post subject:
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| Awesome! looking forward to the demo's. |
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roglok

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:45 am Post subject:
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| may i ask whether you considered a central bus system for the gate/trigger/cv inputs and if yes, what made you go completely modular? |
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Paradigm X
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:17 am Post subject:
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Incredible work, looks amazing.
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Skrog Productions

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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:51 am Post subject:
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| roglok wrote: | | may i ask whether you considered a central bus system for the gate/trigger/cv inputs and if yes, what made you go completely modular? |
Hi , I did think about bussing the triggers & audio, but when I received the engineers at work midi to 24trig converter, I ended up just running the trigger cables direct to the screw clamp terminals on the converter .
The drum system is run from the heart of my studio... RM1X midi sequencer , I included a few trigger inputs on some modules, when an external trigger is plugged in , it breaks the midi trigger with the switch jacks .
On the nein oh nein modules , the accent inputs are great for adding a bit of velocity changing cv's.
The previous drum synth I built in 2009 had a single panel with 8 voices , it was a pain when wanting to mod something later on having to take the whole panel off .
This 12 panel system (18 voice) will be easier to remove stuff for maintenance or modding.
Dave. |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:03 pm Post subject:
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A bit of info about the build...........
Top Row Left..
808 kick & snare :- Eric Archer layouts + some mods
808 HH's / Cymbal / cowbell :- Minus layouts on electro-music.
http://www.ericarcher.net/
http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-54826.html
http://www.stereoping.com/e-drums/?lang=en
By studying these pages and the 808 service manual I was able to cross reference between them to help me lower the tuning of the kick and extend the decay a little on the snare & cymbal.
2X CYNARE :- as the original CGS47 cynare with the 6 shimmer control pots brought out to the panel.
http://www.cgs.synth.net/
Mega Percussive Synth :- Got these in 2009 standard build without inserts .
http://www.birthofasynth.com/Thomas_Henry/Pages/MPS.html
Bottom Row Left.....
Nein oh nein :- as per purchased pcb kick, snare , rimshot, claps, with all the mods done in the documents.
http://cv.hexinverter.net/?page=projects&id=neinohnein--kick-drum-v10
Quad Bass++ :- as the original plan with bump mod and Wave mod.
http://www.birthofasynth.com/Thomas_Henry/Pages/Bass_Plus.html
http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-53420.html
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-40457.html
Pan Control :- all the modules have their own volume out controls, the outputs from each module are wired in screened cable to this panel's veroboad circuits , nearly all the voices were reasonably balance in level , only a couple of drum sounds needed a little pre amp to boost.
Mfos oldies but goodies pan mixer
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/forums.html?MAINTAB=SYNTHDIY&PROJARG=OLDIESBUTGOODIES/AUDIOMIXER/panningmixer.html&VPW=1124&VPH=500
FX and mixer :- Hexinverter battery acid CV , compressor & MXR distortion built as per document & pcb , stand alone FX
,Drum voices or external sounds / instruments can be pluged into it.
http://cv.hexinverter.net/?projects=batteryacid-cv-diy-version-of-idow-edition
Mfos cv panner speaker simulator , the outputs are hard wired to the stereo bus , input level is set with a trimmer on the pcb it is set for the drum modules levels only.
2x Mfos CV echo , built as per design & pcb , these are both stand alone FX (in & out jacks).
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/forums.html?MAINTAB=SYNTHDIY&PROJARG=STEREOPANNER/STEREOPANNER.html&VPW=1124&VPH=500
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/forums.html?MAINTAB=SYNTHDIY&PROJARG=ECHOFXXX/ECHOFXXX.php&VPW=1124&VPH=500
The two rotary switches are FX sends for the modules that don't have an audio output socket on their panels , rotary 1 handles Bass++ 1,2,3 & 4.
Rotary 2 handles Cynare 1&2, MPS 1&2 , both selectors send their signals through a unity gain buffer to the single socket under their dials ready to patch to FX .
The little 5 channel pan mixer above those acts as FX returns to the stereo bus or plug an external instrument in if needed or the returns from an external FX unit .
That's my brain empty of drum info now , I'm off to programme some demo patterns
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:45 am Post subject:
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Hi
Sounds......
First mp3 ...jam & dial twist 808 kick / snare / hi hats / cymbal & cowbell , (dry sound , no FX).
Second mp3...808 sounds & a bass line , (no FX).
third mp3... 808 you suffer, but why? , .
fourth mp3... 909 sounds & bass++ sounds (lfo's into bass++ cv inputs).
fifth mp3... 808 / 909 / cynares / MPS's (mfos echo on cymbal).
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DUBmatze

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| nice build, nice build documentation, nice link overview and nice sound samples !!!! |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:41 am Post subject:
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Thanks DUBmatze
Been a long project but fun (at times)  |
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roglok

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:48 am Post subject:
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| very cool demos. i like the sound of your 808, the low-pitched cowbell sounds nice. did you install a switch for the timing caps or is it fixed? |
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roglok

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:57 am Post subject:
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| Skrog Productions wrote: | | roglok wrote: | | may i ask whether you considered a central bus system for the gate/trigger/cv inputs and if yes, what made you go completely modular? |
Hi , I did think about bussing the triggers & audio, but when I received the engineers at work midi to 24trig converter, I ended up just running the trigger cables direct to the screw clamp terminals on the converter .
The drum system is run from the heart of my studio... RM1X midi sequencer , I included a few trigger inputs on some modules, when an external trigger is plugged in , it breaks the midi trigger with the switch jacks .
On the nein oh nein modules , the accent inputs are great for adding a bit of velocity changing cv's.
The previous drum synth I built in 2009 had a single panel with 8 voices , it was a pain when wanting to mod something later on having to take the whole panel off .
This 12 panel system (18 voice) will be easier to remove stuff for maintenance or modding.
Dave. |
thank you for the explanation. i totally missed this post as well as page one of the thread. with the midi > trigger converter it makes perfect sense, thought you were using the front panel jacks only... |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:31 am Post subject:
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| roglok wrote: | | very cool demos. i like the sound of your 808, the low-pitched cowbell sounds nice. did you install a switch for the timing caps or is it fixed? |
Hi
The cowbell had 2 trimmers showen on the circuit to tune the cowbell (& cymbal & hats) I changed those for panel pots for some adjustable tuning , also the hi-hats both have the white noise from the snare available with a 2 way switch to select the original 6 square osc's or the white noise.
the 808 kick & snare panel was a bit empty when designing the stickers, I put the trigger sockets in to fill it up a bit .
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Paradigm X
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:26 am Post subject:
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looks and sounds amazing man... what a drum box.
great demos too, they all sound fat as fook.
Nice one.
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 am Post subject:
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Thanx Ben , really chuffed with it ,  |
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isak

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:38 pm Post subject:
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Hi Dave.
kick ass work man, its not a drum box...its a DREAM BOX
i was very happy to follow this post, keep up your great building posts.
cheers,
Isak E  _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:40 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Isak  |
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mcop

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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:25 am Post subject:
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| Sounds great. Hope you have a lot of fun with it. |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:00 am Post subject:
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Thanks mcop  |
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