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fetideye

Joined: Jun 22, 2015 Posts: 27 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:18 am Post subject:
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I want to add touch control for the volume of my lunetta oscillators.
I was thinking to use DIY vactrols for gain control in combination with a cd4069 or 4049,
The touch pad would turn on the LED and if there would be a decay control, that would be nice.
What would be a good way to do this?
This is my progress so far:
https://tinyurl.com/yn6vcsn6
better one?
https://tinyurl.com/yqcgg3ae |
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ianbax
Joined: Apr 20, 2022 Posts: 42 Location: Sheffield, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:36 am Post subject:
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I'd say you're pretty much there.
For the touch switches I've been experimenting with the little red ones that are all over ebay/amazon etc based on the ttp223 chip (thanks to Phobos for this tip there's a thread on it https://electro-music.com/forum/topic-73837.html)
Here's a random ebay link but as I said they're easy to track down in several quantities:
https://tinyurl.com/4jw5r3v3
They're self calibrating and plug and play - straight out of the box (although I am working at 5v) they produce a momentary logic high when touched.
I've actually got a similar 'vactrol controlled amplitude' hooked up which is based roughly on Nicolas Collins vactrol tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyQMvSLTC4Q)
I chose an LDR with an insanely large dark resistance (2M I think) and set up a fading LED circuit similar to your falstad link - although mine has attack and decay.
I think you'd just have to fire up the transistor switch with the little red touch pad - perhaps buffer it ?
For the 'audio' side I buffered the signal going in (square wave from a 4093 type oscillator) using a 4049 (4069 here, but 4049 is what I had https://hackaday.com/2015/03/09/logic-noise-sawing-away-with-analog-waveforms/ )
and I found a diode facing the LDR on the way in made for complete silence (because of the voltage drop?) when the LDR/LED combination was dark.
I even found that a capacitor to ground after the LDR gives a crude low pass gate type sound.
Does that make sense? I'm afraid I never drew a proper schematic up, just my scribbing in a notebook.
But...if you don't want to go the vactrol way and you're only processing lunetta square waves there's a psuedo VCA on the hackaday series (https://hackaday.com/2015/04/10/logic-noise-more-cmos-cowbell/) although I've never tried it myself. I think you just need to trigger it from the touch pad output at the right point (where his schematic says 'square wave in'?) |
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fetideye

Joined: Jun 22, 2015 Posts: 27 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:38 pm Post subject:
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thanks!
I'll look into those capacitive sensors. It would be cool te know the schematic of those, to integrate it on my panel |
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Joined: Feb 02, 2010 Posts: 266 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:40 am Post subject:
Re: touch control Subject description: what is a good way to do this |
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fetideye wrote: | I want to add touch control for the volume of my lunetta oscillators.
I was thinking to use DIY vactrols for gain control in combination with a cd4069 or 4049,
The touch pad would turn on the LED and if there would be a decay control, that would be nice.
What would be a good way to do this?
This is my progress so far:
https://tinyurl.com/yn6vcsn6
better one?
https://tinyurl.com/yqcgg3ae |
Are you trying to make a touch gate/trigger, or do you want for it to be pressure sensitive?
Here are simple touch gates that output a positive logic signal when touched.
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Combine that with a simple envelope generator and "VCA" like these.
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fetideye

Joined: Jun 22, 2015 Posts: 27 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:35 am Post subject:
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Thanks, these are helpful
I'll try 'm out!
I'm looking for touch gate / triggers to control the volume of the drone synth (several channels of tuned (and chopped up) triangle waves, so it is not a squarewave or digital source. |
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