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Filter bug number 2?
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AngusHastie



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Filter bug number 2?
Subject description: Why does v1 sound different from v2??
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I don't see any difference betweeen v1 and v2 in this patch, yet the filter in v2 sounds as if it's more closed than in v1. Confused
Any suggestions? I'm completely stumped.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

in var1 the fm input isn't closed completely (2,3 / 3), in var2 it's 0. Idea changing this makes them sound the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

one thing that might have some bearing - I'm sometimes using an FCB1010 midi control pedal to trigger sequences and use a pedal for the mod wheel. Sometimes, the G2 seems to have problems dealing with too much midi information (for example, if I move the foot pedal around too much to send midi data for mod wheel). Maybe the problem lies with my foot pedal, but I've tried testing the above patch with the G2 operating completely stand-alone (no midi ins/outs) and the problem still persists.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Jinji. Sorted now.
The strange thing is that when I was switching between the two variations on my G2, the editor software was not updating the knob position display for that parameter. I have found that this is often an issue.
Also, I sent my previous reply before I read yours, but the issue with the FCB1010 is still true - if I move the foot pedal up and down rapidly (which sends info on the mod wheel channel), the synth sometimes (admittedly infrequently) gives up on me and the corresponding sound can go quiet and crackly. Very strange...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Do you turn your G2 off occasionally or is it always on ?

I've seen strange things happen when I send MIDI to my G2 after it had been on for a few days. It can stop listening to MIDI, it can stop making sound. I never had any crakling though.

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also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Jan,

I never keep my G2's on for more than a few hours ... but such long term (multi day) tests can very useful ... are you finding such glitches with the edtior turned running for many days as well or only the h/w?

/Dasz
ps.: gawd, its so nice not to be a developer any more ... no worrying about the details, but only the vision ...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I never leave my G2 on for more than a few hours either.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dasz wrote:
but such long term (multi day) tests can very useful ...

Just being lazy ;-) All I have to do now is turn up the volume and a noodle wil be playing .. or not .. sometimes. But then I just have to pull the power and plug it in again.
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are you finding such glitches with the edtior turned running for many days as well or only the h/w?

It does not seem to make a difference whether the editor is connected or not (when I run the noodle radio I usually disconnect the USB plugs to remove the ground loop).

The actual patches running do seem to make a difference. But this is of course not very pleasantly reproducible.

BTW Clavia knows about it, but this not having priority is something not too hard to understand - it will not bite you for "typical" use.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AngusHastie wrote:
I never leave my G2 on for more than a few hours either.


Can you reproduce the crackling/silencing problem, like is there a specifc patch that will make the problem audible ?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not with my G2 at the moment but will try to reproduce the problem and post the patch.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Do you turn your G2 off occasionally or is it always on ?

I've seen strange things happen when I send MIDI to my G2 after it had been on for a few days. It can stop listening to MIDI, it can stop making sound. I never had any crakling though.


I keep all my equipment on all the time. The Engines however I need to turn off and on again every now and then. Typically, after two weeks or so and having used patches that send midi from the FX area to its own slot, the module knobs won't work anymore. They can be tweaked in the editor, but no effect in the hardware. Or a patch becomes silent, like Jan mentioned. Saving everything and then rebooting the Engine fixes everything. My estimate is this happens every two to five weeks and I discussed it with Clavia. It is not exactly clear what happens and it is impossible to deliberately force the G2 into this bug. It just might happen if an Engine is powered on for at least a couple of days and is sending midi to itself for a very, very long time, like days.
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