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mosc
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject:
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Here is a little piece I've done in the spirit of the Krellian musicians (from the movie Forbidden Planet. This is pretty much a classical music composition done in the electronic medium.
The title is Golden Squares
It's a trio, written in three parts. Two square wave modulated voices, and one simple melodic voice.
It's tempo is adagio to largo.
It's in modified classical sonata allegro form.
The sounds are made with the Nord Modular G2. Although I made this with a multi-track recording system, it could be peformend live. I hope to get Xeroid Entity to do this one.
The piece was inspired by many of the discussions here on the electro-music.com forum. The patches are inspired by member's contributions to the G2 patch archive. I think It is very expressive, but it's not written with the intent to express anything specific. It's a lot like a day dream.
I think it needs an image. Maybe someone with come art or graphics chops can come up with something.
EDIT (Jan 15 2008): Thanks to some feedback from Robin Miller (rmiller) I've done a remastering to add more spacialization and to remove some distortion. I'm leaving the old version up for comparison.
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Copyright 2004 by Howard Moscovitz |
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Copyright 2004, 2008 by Howard Moscovitz
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_________________ --Howard
my music and other stuff Last edited by mosc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:40 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:01 am Post subject:
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Excellent. |
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mosc
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:
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Thanks... |
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seraph
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:29 am Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | Golden Squares |
excellent Howard
I like it. Not only I am listening to it but I will keep it for my private collection of nice music _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
Quote: | Don't die with your music still in you - Wayne Dyer |
Last edited by seraph on Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:41 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Mohoyoho
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General Elektrick
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:22 am Post subject:
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Very nice piece of music!
In the moment I install some stuff on my computer and its stress
your music helps to keep cool!
thanks
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mosc
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:
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Thanks, guys. I appreciate it very much. |
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Dovdimus Prime
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject:
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Hi Mosc
Yeah, I've had a good listen to this one on my walkman today. It is a tremendous effort in replicating the sounds and feel of the Forbidden Planet. Listening to it, I really want to watch the film again!
Yeah, it really is picture perfect in terms of getting those sounds. It's as if you've used the same instruments and setups exactly as the dude who programmed the sounds for the movie itself. For that sir, I congratulate you!
I'm a little surprised by your definition of it as being a piece in a classical style. I would have expected a definite chord progression, parts harmonising etc. To my mind the parts do little in terms of defining a specific melody and they act independently of each other - i.e. not according to some kind of harmony. I am by no means saying this is not a good thing, merely that to my mind it's more a piece of ambient music (not unlike Tangerine Dream, who I really like), and less a piece of classical music in sonata form.
Artisistically, I cannot fault this. You aimed to create Krellian music and succeeded spectacularly, the execution of this ambition being totally spot on. Entertainment wise, well... it would be cool to have on whilst reading some sci-fi, or cool to play to mates going "Listen! Listen! It's the Forbidden Planet!". But I don't think I would have it on while I was doing the ironing. But I'm sure that's not what you intended.....
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the feeback, Dov.
It's in classical style because the form has three connected movements, and if you break down the movements, they are actually quite classical in their construction. True, it's not based on any conventional scales or harmonic structure, but structurally I think it's classical, at least I'm concerned about those things when I'm making music.
Forbidden Planet is going to be aired at 8PM EDT on Turner Classic Movies on Friday, July 30. |
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Dovdimus Prime
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:43 am Post subject:
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Hi Mosc
You're welcome to the feedback. I hope it was useful in some way! I'm no expert on musical theory, so I guess there was something in the structure or arrangement of the music that was typically classical but that was too subtle for me to pick up on.
I'm interested though because I'm trying to work on a tune at the moment that is modelled on (at least in spirit) Faure's Sicilienne. As I said, I have no idea about the subtleties of formal classical structures, so I'm just doing something that sounds a bit like it to me. It has intertwining melodies which form a repeating chord sequence, which to me is the essence of much classical music. Unfortunately, although to my ear all the melodies sound good, they don't fit into each other all that well - it's almost like they compete. You'll know what I mean when I finish it in about 2008.
Anyway, sorry, diversion there.
Laters
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:39 am Post subject:
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My browser timed out the last time I tried to make a comment in this thread.
I like this piece.
The classical connection here isn´t perhaps that obvious, but the connection to "contemporary art music" is. In many ways i thiunk it can be productive to kinda sum together the lot of traditional classical music theory with all the modern inventions .. like from the 1880s and forward. In such a context, this piece really fits in.
I found this one over at beat amateur´s place.. describing one of his own sonic ventures:
Quote: | Classical music can be considered a form of art music in that it pushes the limits of what we understand about music theory, performance, and appreciation. This track was written with the explicit intent of using a less predictable harmonic structure since popular music (including electronic music) often uses harmonic structures that repeat regularly and frequently. The harmonic structure of this track, while not advancing our understanding of music theory, is a little less straightforward than a typical electronic music track. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject:
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nice ! effective
reminds me of tom dissevelt or maybe martin subotnik _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject:
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opps..i meant morton subotnik _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:17 am Post subject:
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paul wrote: | \
reminds me of tom dissevelt or maybe martin subotnik |
Thanks, Dissevelt and Subotnic - I'm fans of both. I'm honored... |
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject:
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Thanks, I've enjoyed repeated listening of this. _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject:
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bachus wrote: | Thanks, I've enjoyed repeated listening of this. |
Thank you... I'm glad you like it. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:
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Very cool. Thank you. I'm honored that my music would inspire you to such a doodle... |
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:
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I'm very glad you like it Howard. And I am honored to have an image associated with your music. I should tell you that I felt it was pushing "visually too busy" to represent your work even before I added the text in the last step of its construction. To compensate I gave the geometric objects transparency which I think worked well to that end. But I went overboard by ten or fifteen percent. I also notice that the text, "Music by Howard Moscovitz," is off center and needs repositioning. So, in a couple of days, I'll repost a tweaked version.
BTW I feel that it needs a large dark "mat" if it is to be viewed while listening to Golden Squares."
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject:
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nice, guys ! _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:26 am Post subject:
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excellent song, especially after 3:40 reminds of the movie (when there in the old alien constructions) I just love scifi !!!!!!
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:
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Thanks...
After I saw that movie way back when I was a kid, something in my mind snapped. I wanted to be a Krellian musician. Other stuff was good, but to me Krellian music was where it was at. It was so real.
Well, I wanted to be a Beatle too at one point. I guess my first impulse was the most realistic, yeah yeah yeah yeah... |
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | .. I wanted to be a Krellian musician..I wanted to be a Beatle too... |
I wanted to be Bill Evans (except for the fact that he was addicted to drugs)
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:50 am Post subject:
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mosc's GOD |
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:46 pm Post subject:
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ManuMontevideo wrote: | mosc's GOD |
Well, thanks, I guess... yikes... |
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