G2 Based Album Coming out very soon

kcinsu · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:18 am Post subject:

How about you let conversations happen naturally?

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:23 am Post subject:

Quite right! I agree with ErstLaub- lets kill that route straight away Cool

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:25 am Post subject:

kcinsu · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:34 am Post subject:

I asked a simple question. 2 people responded... I hardly think that is getting carried away.

Housefly · Joined: Feb 27, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Ghent

Stanley Pain · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:13 am Post subject:

i think it's valid to discuss the G2 sound if you're promoting an album as G2 based.
i've thought/tried about doing releases G2 only, but something doesn't quite sit right with me doing that. i do tracks that are pretty much G2 only live, but doing stuff on big rigs to drunk audiences hides a multitude of sins.

i believe that to get a convincing sense of depth you need varying types of reverbs, and this really whores the G2 cpu usage for something that could easily be achieved with outboard/software plugins.

when you say this is a G2 based album, are you using several performances/patches overdubbed, or is it all one performance?

erstlaub · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:40 am Post subject:

It's a series of patches based on a starting template i've built for live performance as it is always really important to me to be able to take a piece I have created and play it somewhere in the real world. For this, I recorded the G2 going straight into Soundforge with no post eq or processing anything going on. In this instance each "movement"was recorded and then they were basically just crossfaded into each other mainlyfor the sake of sanity, I tend to normally record in one big chunk but a change of location and circumstance made it pretty impossible at that exact time.

On a technical note, I tend to just use single slots at a time on my unexpanded engine seeing as using performances and multiple slots tend to raise issues for control and general brain meltdown purposes.

Normally/In a live situation, I use a boss dd20 to "sample" the end of a patch while i get the next one loaded and my midi controller reset, if only we had that patch loading buffer, my life would be amazing. I've got a practice set up at www.erstlaub.co.uk/music called On Performing and Island which is prep for my upcoming show that is entirely live (and a little rougher)

I dont have the url handy but my self release which was also 100% G2 and that one just performed in one big chunk, is available on an mp3 blog, just stick my name and The Long Road into google and you'll hopefully find it.

I'm a bit of a purist and really like having as minimal and reliable a setup as possible. I also feel that by limiting myself to just using the G2 pallette (ok, I use a DD20 and have just bought the space echo pedal too) as a source makes me push my creative side to draw emotion from the circuits.

I'm quite surprised by the attitude of some of the newer members of this board, if questions arise as a result of comments made in the middle of a
thread, especially if it alludes to an old/ongoing debate, I'd probably look into some other threads before blindly throwing in a question. Anyway, for some reason, I seem to have made a fair few enemies already, nice to hear support from some of the people whose patching, advice and general demeanour has always been something to look up to though.

Cheers

D

Fozzie · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:32 am Post subject:

kcinsu · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject:

kcinsu · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject:

I didn't mention sharing his patches at all.

kcinsu · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject:

also, he even admits to being defensive/sensitive

It came off as slightly hostile, coupled with his requests that we don't ruin his thread with sub conversations, he just seems to be very defensive about this thread in general.

Fozzie · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:

I just listened the entire track whilst doing some ray-tracing noob reading, which of course has nothing to do with this topic. I think I am a little too traditionalistic for this drone-based music, in the sense that I miss more musical events or sonic variation. Also (I've listened through headphones), at various points there's too much verb in there for my taste. However, I do like the organic quality of your sounds, and particularly liked the sort of sequence that starts some 8 1/2 minutes before the end. Very cool stuff!!

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

kcinsu · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject:

Are you serious? You don't know who "he" is? It's pretty clear that I'm referring to Erstlaub. I used "he" in substitution of his name, as it the proper use of pronouns.

That's fine that you see nothing wrong with his posts. That's your perspective, and you're entitled to it, but don't tell me that that's it. period. I see it differently, and as his (Erstlaub) posts were aimed at me, I have every right to respond.

You are truly making this even bigger than it needs to be.

blue hell · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject:

kcinsu · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

I didn't know that, about the impolite use of "he." America is a pretty informal culture I guess. I meant absolutely no offense by it (and is why I was so surprised to hear it sounded offensive) Generally, pronouns are used in places of names, when you are not directly speaking to a person, but referencing them. I can see how using their name would be considered more polite, but it is not common practice here.

Sorry for the mix up, and thanks for clearing it up... good to know!

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

I liked what I heard at Erstlaub´s website and I managed to grab the mp3 off LastFM. This is good stuff. BTW, I ordered a CD too.

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject:

Hmm.. that downloadable EP thingie piece is really good as well. This is seriously good work. Even though the G2 is the only instrument here, the G2 does not define the music or even seem of relevance. The musician and his music is the focus here as it rightly should be.

Stanley Pain · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:05 am Post subject:

i've said it before, i'll say it again. november is silly season on forums in the northern hemisphere. it's getting darker, let's take it out on each other Wink

the only person i refer to as "he" is our lord and savior Stockhausen.

crawling wind · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject:

Hello - I just listened to your cd streaming at work. I like it! Very nice feel, and your restraint is appreciated. G2 sounds really good.

DNME · Joined: Oct 27, 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Amsterdam

I am new to this forum, and think its very supportive! thnx all.

Got my G2 Engine today, still not sure if I want the keyboard version, because of the price...but I've some weeks to test the Engine and I spend a few hours just listening to some patches and my first impression is that I like the sound allot. I've also got a Nordrack (1) and always liked the sound of it, but it's been a while since I've bought any new stuff from Clavia, and so the G2 is my first thing after my Nordrack. And I think the G2 got that typical Nord sound, nice compact low and crispy bright high in filters. Also depends on the patch, some sounds sound a bit digital and plugin kinda, but I think this machine has loads of opportunities so it will keep it interesting.

5inusoid · Joined: Mar 26, 2007 Posts: 9 Location: NYC

Listening to it right now: this track is GREAT! And this is the kind of music I love, too. Good work, and very exciting knowing it all comes from G2. Great variety of textures. Thank you for sharing this with us!

jamos · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject:

Hey -

I have to admit I like this track a lot; very nice. Technically quite accomplished. Aesthetically well balanced. A beautiful example of what the G2 can do.

I move that any further posts that mention "G2 sound" or "DAC" be moved into some tiny, dark little thread far, far away from the discussions about music and musical instruments.