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mediatechnology

Joined: May 10, 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Oak Cliff, Texas USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:11 am Post subject:
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I've been looking for phaser designs using THAT VCAs and didn't find any. I wanted to use VCAs for fast response and headroom. Google led me to Sam Hoshuyama's very clever design using the SSM2164. I began my experiments using a bootstrapped shunt R approach but the Hoshuyama design was superior. So with the help and support of both Sam and Gary Hebert of THAT I came up with this all-pass section. The THAT VCA, unlike the SSM2164, is non-inverting overall. (The SSM2164 is non inverting but the I-V converter flips polarity.) The following transforms the original design to use a non-inverting VCA teamed up with a THAT1240 to provide a precision all-pass section.
There are sound file demos posted here and throughout the thread:
http://www.proaudiodesignforum.com/forum/php/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=368&start=36
The original discussion starts here:
http://www.proaudiodesignforum.com/forum/php/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=368
I don't post here very often but thought you guys might find it interesting.
Best;
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emdot_ambient
Joined: Nov 22, 2009 Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject:
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So...the schematic above is 1 pole and then you'd just string together N number of them? |
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mediatechnology

Joined: May 10, 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Oak Cliff, Texas USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject:
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Yes, string them in series with the Ec bused.
A few notes:
Ec should be driven by a bipolar op amp to maintain low Ec bus impedance over frequency.
Bifets are needed in the integrator(s) due to the need for low bias current. |
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emdot_ambient
Joined: Nov 22, 2009 Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject:
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The slow noise sweep sounded quite good. In stereo with some delay added would be even better  |
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mediatechnology

Joined: May 10, 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Oak Cliff, Texas USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject:
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Thanks! There are some A+B A-B stereo demos of the earlier topology earlier in the proaudiodesignforum thread. The new topo essentially sounds the same but has wider range. I hope to get some time to build up four more poles and do a stereo demo of this one. |
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frijitz
Joined: May 04, 2007 Posts: 1734 Location: NM USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject:
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mediatechnology wrote: | Thanks! There are some A+B A-B stereo demos of the earlier topology earlier in the proaudiodesignforum thread. The new topo essentially sounds the same but has wider range. I hope to get some time to build up four more poles and do a stereo demo of this one. |
Just out of curiosity, have you considered using higher-order structures (eg, second order Bessel)?
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mediatechnology

Joined: May 10, 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Oak Cliff, Texas USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Ian. I haven't tried higher-order structures other than 8X cascaded single pole sections. |
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