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Whacky, Zany, Weird Stripboard Layout
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:34 am    Post subject:  Whacky, Zany, Weird Stripboard Layout Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Everybody!
I only just joined and thought I'd let you know I've designed a stripboard layout for the whacky, zany, weird sound generator using Lochmaster. I've built and tested it and it works great. It also includes the second channel. If anyone would like me to submit it just let me know.
I'm thinking of doing the SoundLab next.






[edit: made this post as announcement :dnny]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Whacky, Zany, Weird Stripboard Layout Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

uncle-krunkus wrote:
If anyone would like me to submit it just let me know.


1st and foremost, welcome to the EM forum! :)

2ndly, YES PLEASE!!! Please post it and thanks :))) Not all of us have laserprinters yet :(

btw, have you told Ray about your layout too? I reckon that he would be thrilled to put your stripboard design on his website.

Any chance of a SoundLab stripboard version too? Only kidding! hehehe

Tom
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

stripboard eh!! sounds cool. Please post as said by v-un-v not everyone is able to do pcb. I just got a bunch of press and peel so my board is in the wings
welcome. an most appreciated

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's what I meant when I said the Sound Lab is my next project. I'm not kidding!!
I'll probably do separate boards which make up a Sound lab or parts of it. I have a 1year old baby girl starting to get around the house so chemicals are kind of out of the question for a while. I love the challenge of stripboard design anyway. Here's a preliminary pic of the board. You'll need a parts listing to get it finished. I'll follow up with that ASAP. How do I let Ray know about it? Does he look at this forum often? I'll check for an e-mail address on his site.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome uncle-krunkus, good to have you here. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's an x-ray copperside cutting guide. Yellow=cut. Grey=solder point.
Oh, and a rough parts list. My designators aren't exactly the same as the original schem so check this. I'll fix that later.
See ya


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice job. Heres the e-mail from the MFOS page web1@musicfromouterspace.com
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Uncle-krunkus (great name btw!)

uncle-krunkus wrote:
I have a 1year old baby girl starting to get around the house so chemicals are kind of out of the question for a while.


Don't let that put you off. My daughter is now 2 years old, and I teach her what I'm doing- she seems to take it all in. You'll just find that it becomes one heck of a lot more difficult to get on with anything :(

uncle-krunkus wrote:

I love the challenge of stripboard design anyway.


I'm quite impressed with the quality of your drawings. Are you using any help to do these layouts (ie computer) or have you just designed them for the occasion?

I've done a few things on stripboard, but they have all tended to be very basic- there are always too many distractions! Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could get a layout designer which you put in the schematic and the computer works out where to put the components/holes etc?!

I'm thinking about getting a PC because there is so little stuff like PCB designing software for the Mac.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is there any demand for a simple stripboard designing application?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Macaba wrote:
Is there any demand for a simple stripboard designing application?


Yes! I would think so!! (on the Mac too??). Stripboard is so much cheaper than PCB's. So it's far better suited to students and hobbyists. PCB's are better, but are a bit of a faff to put together.

Are you a C++ programmer? I have real trouble remembering strings of numbers so my dreams of becoming a programmer are already dashed :(
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would program it in Real Basic so that it runs on ALL common platforms- windows, MacOS, Linux.

I'll give it some design thought, and perhaps you'll beta test it in a month?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here is a quick design idea in Paint:

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We'll just have to see if I complete it, got plenty of time before college. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Macaba wrote:
Here is a quick design idea in Paint:


I'm impressed :)

Macaba wrote:

We'll just have to see if I complete it, got plenty of time before college. :)


Even more impressed!

Please make it work on a Apple Mac too :))
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here is a list of OS's that Real basic can compile to:

Windows 98/NT/ME/2000/XP
Mac OS X and Classic Mac OS X
Any Linux x86 distribution that provides GTK+ 2.0 (or higher),
Glibc-2.3 (or higher) and CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Eek! Now that would mean too much work, heh.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah It would (mean more work), but if you pulled it off, you could sell it for 10 quid for eg. That would help towards the dreaded student loan.

I once downloaded 'RealBasic'. "RealComplicated" more like! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:

I'm quite impressed with the quality of your drawings. Are you using any help to do these layouts (ie computer) or have you just designed them for the occasion?

uncle-krunkus wrote:

using Lochmaster. I've built and tested it and it works great


Oh v-un-v you dumb fuckin idiot- you should read other's posts better!!!

yours,

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Heh, lochmaster will do then. Razz

But i'll think about this auto-layout generator. First problem would be reading from a schematic, as these tend to be image files.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Macaba wrote:
Heh, lochmaster will do then. :P



Well unfortunately, not. Because it dosent work on an Apple Mac :((((((
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Macaba wrote:
First problem would be reading from a schematic, as these tend to be image files.


No, no. you wouldn't have to do that. Just feed the circuit in- drawing by hand. hmmmm actually it would be difficult because of all the different sizes of the components- yes a lot of work.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Obviously, i'd stick to all the components that ADHDboy ever uses in his stuff, like the common op-amps and capacitors. And extra components would become available on demand. The key is making the program modular, so I can easily add components.

Ever since i've started to build my analogue modular synth, I've been a real big fan of modular design! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: stripboard in US Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Had a little trouble finding a US supplier of stripboard, but finally tracked some down from All Electronics:

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=455&item=ECS-4&type=store

$5.50@, looks like two of uncle krunks layouts would fit on one. they do add a $6 handling fee, but that give me a good excuse to stock up on some other goodies...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's some other places http://www.diystompboxes.com/cart/ scroll down

and http://www.futurlec.com/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi

some people complain about futurlecs shipping times. I've never had a problem. They have super cheap pots 50 cents WHOA!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Check this aladdins cave out! Bit pricey but very nice to look at :)

http://www.ehcknobs.com/index.html

Thanks Zebra for the futurlec link. Pots for 25p ?!?! nice %)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The pots I use are 38p:

38p Pots.

The shaft length is perfect for mounting though a panel and putting a knob on the otherside, as shown on my modular synth project:

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