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Buchla Knob Group Buy #3: Small Blue Un-skirted
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ericcoleridge



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Buchla Knob Group Buy #3: Small Blue Un-skirted
Subject description: $4 each; 100 and over $3 each
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I'd like to get started on the next group buy for blue Buchla knob reproductions. After going over my estimates I believe with enough orders I can offer them for $4 each, with a minimum order of 40 knobs. On orders of 100 or more, there will be a price break to $3 each.

This current order is for the smallest size, unskirted knob, with black indicator marking---pictured below. These knobs are used on many modules such as the 259, 266, 281, etc.

Please PM me as soon as possible with your order. I'd like to collect orders and put the buy through in 2-4 weeks this time. Let me know if you have any questions.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

PM sent.
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TekniK



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

To be certain ericco,is the picture correct,seems to me its not the right knob?
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Dego



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I want with skirt Crying or Very sad

Do you all guys have the small skirted ones?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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frenchyinmunich



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Group buy #3 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi,

PM sent! But teknik is true.
The knob on your picture is not the right one.

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ericcoleridge



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TekniK wrote:
To be certain ericco,is the picture correct,seems to me its not the right knob?


I'm not sure what you mean? Aside from the color, the knob pictured above is the small unskirted style knob used on most buchla 200s.
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frenchyinmunich



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject:
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I think that the color is not blue on your picture.
And the line black on top is missing.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject:
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frenchyinmunich wrote:
I think that the color is not blue on your picture.
And the line black on top is missing.

F


this is just a stock photo for this knob style. The group buy is for this knob, in blue, with black indicator line.

The knob in the photo may also be a larger size, but the small ones look essentially, or even exactly the same. It's the exact style used on most blue knob 200s.
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TekniK



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject:
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ericcoleridge wrote:
frenchyinmunich wrote:
I think that the color is not blue on your picture.
And the line black on top is missing.

F


this is just a stock photo for this knob style. The group buy is for this knob, in blue, with black indicator line.

The knob in the photo may also be a larger size, but the small ones look essentially, or even exactly the same. It's the exact style used on most blue knob 200s.


Ericco,i don't want to be doing difficult here,but even then (smaller,blue)its not the same knob.

The bottom of the knob are not like the originals imo

Or am i totaly wrong here now?

EDIT: these are the right one but with a line,
Can you confirm its these u will order?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pic in previous post was from Dego shot,its the knobs u sold without marker ericco

i found this shot on verbos 259 modul,i think these are the one for this groupbuy?

Dego u have fake buchla knobs Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wouldn't call either one 'fake'. The knob in the former picture, from dego, is the same kind I currently own and use. They were sold to me as Buchla replacement knobs and based on pictures I'd seen, they have been used on Buchla panels, or at least used as replacements by Buchla owners. I believe both knobs are the same model and manufacturer, perhaps from different years.

However, on the few Buchla 200 modules I've seen in person, I've observed the shorter knobs with one set screw used. This is also what is currently being manufactured by Rogan for this model #. So, it's what this group buy will be buying. I don't know if the taller ones are even available anymore.

Similarly, on early Buchla 200 modules, and on many Music Easels, there was another version of similar knobs used, the Alpha model. These can no longer be manufactured for 1/4" shaft, and are therefore not as practical for most people's purposes.
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TekniK



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ericcoleridge wrote:
I wouldn't call either one 'fake'. The knob in the former picture, from dego, is the same kind I currently own and use. They were sold to me as Buchla replacement knobs and based on pictures I'd seen, they have been used on Buchla panels, or at least used as replacements by Buchla owners. I believe both knobs are the same model and manufacturer, perhaps from different years.

However, on the few Buchla 200 modules I've seen in person, I've observed the shorter knobs with one set screw used. This is also what is currently being manufactured by Rogan for this model #. So, it's what this group buy will be buying. I don't know if the taller ones are even available anymore.

Similarly, on early Buchla 200 modules, and on many Music Easels, there was another version of similar knobs used, the Alpha model. These can no longer be manufactured for 1/4" shaft, and are therefore not as practical for most people's purposes.


Ok,i see thanks for clarification.
I did take a look on the rogan site,they call it the 'deep core' version.

Why do u not go for these instead? ,its those u use yourself already and sold to other members here ,they have a better grip imo Sad

http://www.rogancorp.com/rb_round_dc.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: buchla knobs small size group order Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have the same feeling like Teknik.
The finich of the one he mentioned is better to my taste...
Rolling Eyes
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TekniK



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: buchla knobs small size group order Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

frenchyinmunich wrote:
I have the same feeling like Teknik.
The finich of the one he mentioned is better to my taste...
Rolling Eyes


The DC versions are probably better in the fingers,but the non-DC version
fits better look-wise with the skirt versions ,Check:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi I am in I just send you a PM.
I will take 40 knobs.
But it would be nice if you could send
me the specifications for the big blue Rogan knobs
I missed the last group buy so I will probably order
some myself.

Thanks for doing this group buy by the way. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

are these the same knobs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-MARSHALL-PEDAL-SPEAKER-AMPLIFIER-ALUMINUM-KNOB-ML_W0QQitemZ300389124427QQcategoryZ48648QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8583124134979395767
These are black and don't have the line but look very similar and at 0.50 usd each they are pretty cheap.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3vco,
if you want to do a group buy for Marshall amp knobs, you should, but, respectfully, I don't know why you'd be posting about it under this buchla knob group buy topic? These knobs aren't even vaguely the same : )

FYI, Rogan knobs can be purchased in any quantity from Allied, for example. however, they're only available in black, and the small ones only with 1/8" shaft. I think they're around $3 each.

3vcos wrote:
are these the same knobs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-MARSHALL-PEDAL-SPEAKER-AMPLIFIER-ALUMINUM-KNOB-ML_W0QQitemZ300389124427QQcategoryZ48648QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8583124134979395767
These are black and don't have the line but look very similar and at 0.50 usd each they are pretty cheap.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi I changed my mind. I think I will order 50
if thats ok with you? Very Happy It's such a rare opportunity
to get new rogan knobs for the Buchla.
I just paid a very high price for one of the
red rogan Alpha knobs so I know what I am
talking about.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi guys.
I have a few "real" Buchla modules on my desk and there are three different types of knobs used.

The "shorter" one that this group buy is about is used when the pot has 1/8" shaft. These have one set screw.

The "taller" one (like the Dego-shot) is used where the pot has 1/4" shaft.
These have two setscrews.
The ones without marker are not fakes but propably just broken skirted knobs. The skirt breaks and then that is what is left, I have a few of those...

Another style (Alpha-model?) is sometimes used, all knobs have fewer and bigger knurls, I have these on a 227 and have seen them on Music easels too.
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TekniK



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dar303 wrote:

The "taller" one (like the Dego-shot) is used where the pot has 1/4" shaft.
These have two setscrews.
The ones without marker are not fakes but propably just broken skirted knobs. The skirt breaks and then that is what is left, I have a few of those...

.


am sure not,because there is also a difference when u look at the top of each knob,the DC version have large border at top ,the other and the skirted have small border so those that dego have are just DC vesion without marker Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm waiting on one last payment--which will be in by this coming weekend-- before putting this order thru. So, if anyone still wants in, Saturday will be the cutoff. Manufacturing time is 5 weeks, and then it will take me a week or so to divide up and send out individual orders. So, expect delivery around mid-May.

On a related note, I'd like to gauge interest in another order for the blue skirted "medium" sized knobs. Several people have asked if I'd do another run of this size-- so I'm wondering generally how high the interest level is? The first time around I had a couple massive orders that allowed me to buy a huge bulk; I don't expect to meet that quantity again, but there should be enough interest to meet the bare minimum requirement. So, I'm estimating the cost to be around the same price as the current order for small knobs($4.00 each).

Please post here or PM me with the quantity of skirted knobs that you would want. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ericcoleridge wrote:

Please post here or PM me with the quantity of skirted knobs that you would want. Thanks.


Great!

i take 150 0r 200

Btw ericco,what is the minimum order for the Big knobs like used omn the 259 ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If the minimum order is again forty I would take forty Very Happy
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