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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Power Distro PCBs Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have wanted to give something back to this community, but until last night, I had little.

Power distro boards are not too expensive ($30 from blacet), still I wanted to keep my $30, AND I NEEDED ONE NOW.

This is my first board layout, if anybody sees errors, PLEASE let me know. I have another layout that incorporated bypass caps and circuit protection diodes, however in the interest of saving time, I went with this one. It is pretty hard to plug those MTA connectords in BACKWARDS anyhow (I guess you could always build a cable backwards if you wanted to huff magic smoke)!

The nice thing about this layout is that it is a quasi-Star grounding system. If you use the connector marked for POWERSUPPLY to make connection to your supply, no module will be further then 3 module connections from GND and SUPPLY. With the Blacet supply, you can have 8 modules between GND and that last connector. As there are basically 2 busses on mine, you could perhaps even provide some isolation for a noisey module by placing it on a seperate buss.

This board is tested. I made one last night, and I have been enjoying it all morning.

The layout is ready for press n peel type etch, the image is at 300dpi


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks very nice. Very Happy May I suggest mounting holes and maybe LED indicators ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

similar to the layout i use, except mine's a long strip rather than folded... i suspect yrs is mechanically sturdier.

my only issue has been drilling... i don't have a nice carbide bit that big, and sometimes my regular twist drill rips up the copper enough to break the trace. easy enough to kludge when soldering, but i added 'donuts' around each hole to keep as much copper available as possible.

if anyone got it together to do a run of proffessional boards like this, bare minimum features, i'd be in for a TON.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

State Machine wrote:
Looks very nice. Very Happy May I suggest mounting holes and maybe LED indicators ?

Bill


Hey Bill, good idea. I just added those. Let me know what you think.

I have not tested this obviously, but I need to make a second board anyhow, so soon I will be testing it,

Thanx,

Tony
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbob wrote:
similar to the layout i use, except mine's a long strip rather than folded... i suspect yrs is mechanically sturdier.

my only issue has been drilling... i don't have a nice carbide bit that big, and sometimes my regular twist drill rips up the copper enough to break the trace. easy enough to kludge when soldering, but i added 'donuts' around each hole to keep as much copper available as possible.

if anyone got it together to do a run of proffessional boards like this, bare minimum features, i'd be in for a TON.

bbob


I bought carbide drills from a fellow on ebay selling refurbrished drills. He has tons of them, they are very inexpensive.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbob wrote:

if anyone got it together to do a run of proffessional boards like this, bare minimum features, i'd be in for a TON.

bbob


Me too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

me also


What I like of MOTM power distr board ($39!) is that it has both power input and output connectors and of the set screw type.
For me it is the ideal design.

http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/forums.html?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=180
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fernando wrote:
me also


What I like of MOTM power distr board ($39!) is that it has both power input and output connectors and of the set screw type.
For me it is the ideal design.

http://www.synthtech.com/testcart/forums.html?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=180


Wow, that MOTM distro board is MUCH NICER then the Blacet board and it only cost $10 more???


Well, I could make the supply inlet screw terminal type. Is anybody really interested in a run of distro boards. I would definitely be willing to do it...

I am using eagle, so it should not be hard.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the good thing is that it has screw terminals for both in and out

and 21 slots
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I second third forth a call for somebody to get some pro boards for this purpose...you wouldnt even wanna see how my power connections are made.

I imagine a minimum of hundreds would be requested in short time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i'd be in for one. (or i could etch one i guess)


i know i could use an, ummm. safer board!! i am using a piece of stripboard set up with two buses and screw terminals on the inputs. the problem i am having is that i already have a module that needs its own bus. (CGS LFO-the leds might be the culprit)


anyway, i have been using the 3pin mta connectors, maybe using these dual ground 4 pins would help.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Hey Bill, good idea. I just added those. Let me know what you think.



Perfect .... thanks for considering my suggestion .... Very Happy

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Well, I could make the supply inlet screw terminal type. Is anybody really interested in a run of distro boards. I would definitely be willing to do it..
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If it had terminal block inputs, filter capacitors, and indicators, yes, I would be interested Very Happy I know that Eagle files are compatible with PCB Pool, they might give you a nice price for a run of boards .... I will keep my eye on this thread. If I lose track and you do a run, PM me ... OK?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmmmmmm

Power distro boards would be mighty useful for me too... I'll think about whether I can do the do on this using futurlec for decent priced boards.

I'd actually be very keen to get two types - one for the 0.156" headers and one for IDC (like doepfer). Standard screw terminals at each end, caps - plus maybe protection diodes? and even power indicator LEDs?

I'd always reckon on making them long and thin rather than bunched up...

Hmmm, more thoughts?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bugbrand wrote:
Hmmmmmm

Power distro boards would be mighty useful for me too... I'll think about whether I can do the do on this using futurlec for decent priced boards.

I'd actually be very keen to get two types - one for the 0.156" headers and one for IDC (like doepfer). Standard screw terminals at each end, caps - plus maybe protection diodes? and even power indicator LEDs?

I'd always reckon on making them long and thin rather than bunched up...

Hmmm, more thoughts?


Well, my main reason for making the distro board "bunched up" is that the FREEWARE version of EAGLE limits board size to 100 x 80 mm! Still I think the compact design is nice as it allows for greater choice in locating the power distro board AND this design incorporates the star gnd for 2 seperate busses; something that the Blacet supply board does not do...

I'll redesign with screw treminals for supply inlet.

Do you really think the caps are neccessary? Most modules have the abundance of bypass caps? And protection diodes, are those even fast enough to work on something that can supply so much current so quickly(typically people have 1A supplies connected to thtese things)?

Tony

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