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curious, mosc
did you read the info on that site...?
in other words, is your opinion fully informed ?
again, i am not endorsing any one theory...buti assess all evidence before forming my opinions...and they are just opnions anyay..we'll never know
however, the official version would be nice and tidy and less mind-breaking...
it would be nice if we could just have that one, identifiable enemy to explain the mind-numbing tradegy of 9/11
like the safety and secuirty a parent gives a child..even if it is false
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| mosc wrote: | | To say that this is a hoax by the government, is like saying cancer is a phony disease put forth by the drug companies. |
Not a hoax. Not at all. Just saying that the "masterminds" are a domestic terrorist organization called the neocons. Ever read the Project for a New American Century?
"The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor"
The "change" they are talking about is U.S. ideological and military domination of the world.
I think people in the states are very resistant to seeing the correlations between the ruling nut-jobs here and the ruling nut-jobs of nazi germany. Where's the harm in exploring it? If we don't then we are just as complicit as the citizens of nazi germany were. This is exactly how it happened there. Even down to reviving the word 'homeland'. It's not fun to think that people are capable of such things but they are and history has shown us that and the U.S. is no exception. |
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paul e.
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I think people in the states are very resistant to seeing the correlations between the ruling nut-jobs here and the ruling nut-jobs of nazi germany. Where's the harm in exploring it? If we don't then we are just as complicit as the citizens of nazi germany were. . |
exactly...this is my fear...if this is true..then we must do everything we can to prevent this...
even if the probablity is low...we need to exercise extreme caution and observe with our eyes open..
and keep a free dialogue open..
critical thinking..
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| Yeah, why don't you Canadian's come down here and liberate us? |
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| paul wrote: | curious, mosc
did you read the info on that site...? |
Yes, I spent a great deal of time reading the various articles there.
The site you reference doesn't seem very objective to me, nor very scientific. Certainly very amateurish. It doesn't mean that they are wrong, but it isn't convincing to me. It reminds me of people debunking the Kennedy assasination and the Moon landings.
I think it is outrageous that the government was assleep at the switch, but I don't think they faked it. It's possible... but as Yogi Berra said, I'll believe it when I believe it. |
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paul e.
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| mosc wrote: | | Yeah, why don't you Canadian's come down here and liberate us? |
if you mean liberate the US philosophically..well we are already doing that
when it comes to guns and armies and mad leaders, however...no contest
thanks for the offer tho
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Yes, I spent a great deal of time reading the various articles there.
The site you reference doesn't seem very objective to me, nor very scientific. |
i agree..
nor is it scientific or objective to accept the official story without examining the discrepancies..
while that site is amatuerish and lacking objectivity, so is the current US government
so which nutcases do we believe ?
i thikn the truth probably lies somewhere in between the official story and the 'conspiracy' theories
discussion should be encouraged on this....
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i thikn the truth probably lies somewhere in between the official story and the 'conspiracy' theories |
Yes, well said. I like the word probably used with the word truth. They should always be used together. The probability distrubution sometimes is closer to the official story and sometimes to the conspiriacy theories.  |
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I don´t´believe in a conspiracy.. in the sense that the Bush junta arranged for the 911 WTC disaster to happen. It would have been far easier to arrange events outside of the US instead. This could have been far more effective too, because if this had been done right.. and they always hire pros.. then they could have expected more support from "difficult" countries like France and Germany etc.
What happened next is more like a grand conspiracy though.
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My theory right now is that the attacks were not planned by this administration but that they had full knowledge of them and orchestrated the failure to respond which amounts to the same thing.
Arranging something outside of the U.S. would not have had the desired effect. The idea that americans are safe on their little continent was destroyed and now the fear mongers have free reign. |
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