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Velts.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: LPF
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Okay, i didn't know where to post this, so less hate if it's in the wrong section.
I play guitar and bass, recently i've been starting to take a closer look at DIY effect pedals. I had this idea: A Low Pass Filter built in a Wah-case, the cutoff would be controllable via the expression pedal. A resonance add-on would also be nice. Is this achievable?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: LPF
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Hi Velts!

welcome to electro-music.com!

What you ask about is indeed achievable. It is very easy to use the potentiometer in the pedal to control cutoff frequency and/or resonance, provided that the filter you choose has voltage control of those parameters. There are lots of filter circuits in the DIY community that would fit this project just fine. Do you have any particular variety in mind? If not, I'm sure other EM members can recommend a suitable filter, possibly with a ready made circuit board or even as a complete kit (a good starting point if you are just beginning with DIY effects).

BTW: here's a nice wha-wha tech link.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, something moogish would be very nice, im talking about a fat sounding LP.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How about the CGS Steiner-Parker?
http://www.cgs.synth.net/ - look for CGS 35 Synthacon Filter
Has LP/BP/HP possibilities and sounds good with some nice distortion. But if you want clean, maybe not so good.

Moog:
http://yusynth.net/Modular/index.html
A minimog clone can be found here...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I suppose I'm not going to want several inputs or envelope capabilities, would someone strip down the circuit so that it only has cutoff and resonance controls?

Thanks in forward.
EDIT: How cute, i ran a search for the components and no electronics-specialised store has the TL072-s.
Plus it'd be a pain building an unipolar 15V power supply..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I built the wasp filter into an expression pedal. It runs of a battery and does low pass and high pass. It's a pretty easy build.

Schematic here..

http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs159/waspfilt.png

If your electronics store doesn't stock TL072's then it is time to find a new electronics store.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wasp filter - fonik has a layout:

http://www.modular.fonik.de/Page20.html

This filter tends to distort too, doesn't it?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

widdly wrote:
I built the wasp filter into an expression pedal. It runs of a battery and does low pass and high pass. It's a pretty easy build.

Schematic here..

http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs159/waspfilt.png

If your electronics store doesn't stock TL072's then it is time to find a new electronics store.

The problem is, there are two online electronics stores in Estonia and neither one has them!Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

any dual OpAmp would do, i think.
refer to a aaron lanterman's listing (scroll down to OpAmps):
http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~lanterma/sdiy/datasheets/

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: LPF
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Velts. wrote:
Okay, i didn't know where to post this, so less hate if it's in the wrong section.
I play guitar and bass, recently i've been starting to take a closer look at DIY effect pedals. I had this idea: A Low Pass Filter built in a Wah-case, the cutoff would be controllable via the expression pedal. A resonance add-on would also be nice. Is this achievable?


I mean no disrespect to your idea, however, it seems that what you're proposing is essentially what a Wah-Wah pedal already is, a Filter inside a manual-pedal case. If it's the manual resonance control that you'd like to add, i know that that some wah-wahs use a trim pot to fix the res at a certain level. You could replace this trim with an external pot.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: LPF
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ericcoleridge wrote:
Velts. wrote:
Okay, i didn't know where to post this, so less hate if it's in the wrong section.
I play guitar and bass, recently i've been starting to take a closer look at DIY effect pedals. I had this idea: A Low Pass Filter built in a Wah-case, the cutoff would be controllable via the expression pedal. A resonance add-on would also be nice. Is this achievable?


I mean no disrespect to your idea, however, it seems that what you're proposing is essentially what a Wah-Wah pedal already is, a Filter inside a manual-pedal case. If it's the manual resonance control that you'd like to add, i know that that some wah-wahs use a trim pot to fix the res at a certain level. You could replace this trim with an external pot.


Yes but a wah-wah is a bandpass filter, yes-no? I've run guitar through LPF's using a pedal interface and it sounds different than a wah pedal for sure. Especially if you had a resonance control...

cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

guitar -> distortion pedal -> swept resonant high pass

This sounds very cool, especially as build up before switching out the filter for and having the drums drop in.
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