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Antimon
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:39 am Post subject:
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So I'm getting the modular bug (thanks Jyoti ), and have been looking at some way to get a nice first system to try out. Having recently managed to get a fully working MFOS SoundLab, I thought it would be nice to get a kit and have some fun assembling stuff while shaving down the price a bit.
Curetronic caught my attention - short transportation from Germany to here (nice to the environment), VAT aligned (I think) and available as kits. I sent an email asking about their systems and a potential setup, and got a nice answer from Matthias. The crux is that the kits are actually prepopulated boards with panels and knobs missing (you can also by empty PCBs). Knobs I can get hold of, but panels...
So I've been searching around here and other places, and I gather that the most common material is aluminium, anodized (to make it black) and then etched with chemicals by use of some drawing application run on a computer. I am very hesitant getting into this stuff - I don't mind if the modules don't have the standard black appearance, or if text is not etched or a bit wobbly.
My first question: is plastic out of the question? I have an old broken TV with a plastic chassis in the basement that I could cut panels out of.
Second: I'm thinking it could be possible to use nice looking stickers/dekals instead of etching. Either individual text labels wherever applicable, or something covering the entire panel, like DSI do on their desktop Evolvers. Is this difficult to do? Can you print out decals with an Inkjet printer and stick them on a modular without risk of smearing the paint after a while? Could you protect them with something?
Third: If I should decide to go the aluminium route - I've seen loads of comments regarding finding and drilling, but how do you cut the stuff? Do you need some special saw, or do you need to find someone to do it for you?
Fourth: Am I stupid for going through all this trouble for just the panels and knobs (I won't even hardly get to do any soldering, which I had planned to be the fun part)? It's more than half the price of each module - the C100 VCO costs €210 complete, €59 without panel and knobs.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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DrJustice

Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 2114 Location: Morokulien
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:44 am Post subject:
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1. If you're cool with it, there's no reason to not use plastic for the panels. It could possibly be a bit floppy, flexing as you work the controls(?). If nothing else it's easy to cut and drill.
2. If you use inkjet printed decals, I'd think that a coat of clear laquer will be good protection.
3. A hacksaw and a file, or an electric saw of some kind with the correct blade works fine for cutting aluminium.
4. Have you checked out Schaeffer? Very popular in DIY circles for all kinds of alu panels.
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Antimon
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:54 am Post subject:
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Thanks for your input - that makes me a little more assured that I might be able to pull this of somehow.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject:
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What are you mounting this into (in the long run)? I am in the midst of making a 19" rack compatible system, using horizontal (2 or 3 unit height) standard steel panels, that then house several modules each. I had an advantage, in that I bought several PCBs at once, somewhat planning out the system. Now I can just think through a grouping of modules, and drill & mount. No cutting needed. I haven't quite worked out the labels yet. Either etch off the paint on the steel, or stickers. I want to develop a system of symbols, rather than words for it. Numbers, only where appropriate and accurate.
However, Aluminum is fairly soft, and if the teeth aren't too large, a regular wood saw blade would do (At least, it has worked for me in the past!). It will be louder than a cat in heat when it's being cut, so wear ear protection! |
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Antimon
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:
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I was thinking about buying one of Curetronic's finished cabinets. One big panel sounds like an interestig idea, but I think I'm going to stay on the safe route for this my first system.
Is it possible to put a coat of paint on aluminium without anodizing first?
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject:
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Hmmm, my guess would depend on the paint used. Good enamel would probably work better than others. And it might not hurt to rough up the surface with some very fine sand paper first. Otherwise, it would most likely chip or scratch very easily. |
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RF

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wmonk
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject:
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RF wrote: |
I like using 1/8 inch aluminum. Inexpensive, nice feel and zero flex - also pretty easy to work with basic tools. Also - everything is grounded to the panel.
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I've a question because I want to do my panels myself. Would 2mm (~ 1/12") thick aluminium be ok for MOTM sized panels? |
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Antimon
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for you answers, guys! I'm starting to think I'll go the aluminium route anyway.
@RF: I like your panels - if I can do as good as that I'll be very pleased.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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jochem
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject:
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wmonk wrote: | I've a question because I want to do my panels myself. Would 2mm (~ 1/12") thick aluminium be ok for MOTM sized panels? |
2mm is fine. I wouldn't go any thicker because of the lenght of thread on pots etc. |
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