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Nord 1 rack knobs replacement
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christos



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Nord 1 rack knobs replacement Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi all
I have a nord lead rack, bought it used some months ago and has that unique raw sound which i really love it so much but the only thing are the knobs that after so many years they stack and feel like shit when turning them, i really need to replace them but cannot find anywhere, emailed clavia some time ago but didnt get any answer, if anyone knows where to find them, i could carefully replace them on my own or call a technician that can do that.
Also is there a possibility to put the knobs from a Nord 2 which have excellent feeling on my nord rack ??
I really need to replace these but cannot find knobs anywhere, any help is much appreciated
thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And basically the biggest problem of course is that i cannot program exactly the values i want some times because they are too loose and jump values, with a more steady knob i feel its much better (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome christos,

christos wrote:
... (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway)
Well. actually, it does exist... Press [Shift+LFO1-wave form] and turn a knob. You'll be surprised Smile

No, this isn't in the Manual, but it's there, only on this forum... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you rock Cool thanx . but still it would be great if i can replace and theres a chance to find new knobs

thanx a bunch for the tip , really really helpful Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

christos wrote:
... still it would be great if i can replace and theres a chance to find new knobs
I think you'll need new pots inside. These have to be newly soldered, but that's a highly specialized job. Not that difficult to do when you have the skills, but not for us, mortals (to stay in ancient Athens, that is Wink Try to find a service station nearby. If you are in need of the black knob hoods, maybe Clavia could help you out.
The potmeters itself are ones you can buy almost everywhere. well, you'll need the ones with a flat rod, 5 mm diameter, I thought... Just pull a hood away and you know what I mean Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmm, i see, so you suggest to open the synth and check what kind of pots it needs and go buy some to replace and keep the black knobs, i know it needs new mechanism to be more steady, i thought this comes only with the knobs but if the pots are more "generic" parts that i can find i will go this way and fix it on my own (i have soldering iron and know how to use them good so that is not a problem, ive studied computer engineering too Razz , this is more like fun, no worries Cool )
i guess you are write dr Wout , thanx for your tips again Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not sure if you are aware of this or not, but I'll write it anyway, just in case.

The pots are variable resistors, connected as voltage dividers (variable potentiometers). They come in a few varieties, such as linear or logarithmic taper, multiply ganged, integrated switch, through hole/surface mount, orthogonal/prallel mount, chassis mount w/ wire contacts/pcb mount, varying pin alignments, varying resitance etc.

The trick to replacing PCB components is really in safe removal. It is a lot easier to fit a component to a vacant PCB than it is to remove a component once fitted. One must be careful not to damage plating, pads, tracks etc, and not to overheat the board.

Of course, one can learn to do so. One trick is to cut the pins off the component, and then remove the pins one at a time from the PCB. Use of flux paste, desoldering braid, solder sucker, and a good iron can help. It would be highly advised to get a good amount of practice on something like a broken stereo or mixer, prior to attacking your synth.

I suggest you learn to read the component legending first, and source the replacement components before going any further. Do an eyeball check for fit in all dimensions, and preferably also a multimeter check of any components prior to swapping, if you are not certain of your replacement's suitability. Be ware of measuring values of components mounted on a PCB though, as the electrical net can affect what one thinks one is measuring.

You may be able to find some demonstration videos for desoldering online. There are certainly some around for soldering in general. There are also plenty of fora dealing more specifically with this kind of operation.

Good luck. Hope this helps, and please accept my apologies if I am stating the obvious for you here.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
welcome christos,

christos wrote:
... (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway)
Well. actually, it does exist... Press [Shift+LFO1-wave form] and turn a knob. You'll be surprised Smile

No, this isn't in the Manual, but it's there, only on this forum... Wink

Wout


super cool Laughing .... i like these sort of secrets!
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

W.T. wrote:
... i like these sort of secrets!
Yep! I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden. (Dutch joke, I'm afraid... Shocked)

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden.


Nonsense Exclamation Shocked Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
W.T. wrote:
... i like these sort of secrets!
Yep! I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden. (Dutch joke, I'm afraid... Shocked)

Wout


LOL . . . give me some more Henk Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[Shift+Filter mode] > Notch+HighPassFillter? All three LEDs are burning.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mmmm... i knew that one but now it doesn't work.
when i make the shift + filter type combination it jumps to notch+lp Confused

At first it did ok in single mode but when i went to performance mode (where it didn't work) and back it now also doesn't work in single mode no more.

the leds are ok and i restarted it several times.

never mind i can overcome this sinds i dont use that allpass/notch/hp thing . . Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

W.T. wrote:
mmmm... i knew that one but now it doesn't work.
when i make the shift + filter type combination it jumps to notch+lp Confused
Strange... You're on a NordLead2X?
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At first it did ok in single mode but when i went to performance mode (where it didn't work) and back it now also doesn't work in single mode no more.
In Performance mode it is the only signnficant mode to use it in: Slot A Notch+LP, short Attack and long Decay; Slot B Notch+HP, long Attack and short Decay. I save the Programs first in Program mode and open them in Performance mode later...
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the leds are ok and i restarted it several times.
never mind i can overcome this sinds i dont use that allpass/notch/hp thing . . Very Happy
Sure yo can live wihout, but...

BTW you are holding Shift while pressing Filter mode?

Wout

PS in fact there aren't much differences between 'since'and 'sinds' only they are from different languages Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It is a nord Rack 1 (os 2.5)

Yes i hold the shift button down, I did it many times before........ wait, wile I am writing this beautiful sentence I tried it again and now it does work...

perhaps it has something to do with the fact that i dumped some sounds in my sequencer and some weird midi/loop thing was taking place....

wait (again) . . now i found out that... when the NR channel is in record mode it doesn't work (it goes to lp+noth) and when it is out of record mode it does work.

when controller data is set to off it works properly Razz

solved . . . well-done

pffffff.................


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PS in fact there aren't much differences between 'since'and 'sinds' only they are from different languages Wink


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