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christos
Joined: Apr 22, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: athens
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:48 am Post subject:
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Hi all
I have a nord lead rack, bought it used some months ago and has that unique raw sound which i really love it so much but the only thing are the knobs that after so many years they stack and feel like shit when turning them, i really need to replace them but cannot find anywhere, emailed clavia some time ago but didnt get any answer, if anyone knows where to find them, i could carefully replace them on my own or call a technician that can do that.
Also is there a possibility to put the knobs from a Nord 2 which have excellent feeling on my nord rack ??
I really need to replace these but cannot find knobs anywhere, any help is much appreciated
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christos
Joined: Apr 22, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: athens
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:54 am Post subject:
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And basically the biggest problem of course is that i cannot program exactly the values i want some times because they are too loose and jump values, with a more steady knob i feel its much better (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway) |
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Wout Blommers

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:29 am Post subject:
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christos,
christos wrote: | ... (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway) | Well. actually, it does exist... Press [Shift+LFO1-wave form] and turn a knob. You'll be surprised
No, this isn't in the Manual, but it's there, only on this forum...
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christos
Joined: Apr 22, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: athens
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:34 am Post subject:
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you rock thanx . but still it would be great if i can replace and theres a chance to find new knobs
thanx a bunch for the tip , really really helpful  |
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Wout Blommers

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:48 am Post subject:
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christos wrote: | ... still it would be great if i can replace and theres a chance to find new knobs | I think you'll need new pots inside. These have to be newly soldered, but that's a highly specialized job. Not that difficult to do when you have the skills, but not for us, mortals (to stay in ancient Athens, that is Try to find a service station nearby. If you are in need of the black knob hoods, maybe Clavia could help you out.
The potmeters itself are ones you can buy almost everywhere. well, you'll need the ones with a flat rod, 5 mm diameter, I thought... Just pull a hood away and you know what I mean
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christos
Joined: Apr 22, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: athens
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:06 am Post subject:
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hmm, i see, so you suggest to open the synth and check what kind of pots it needs and go buy some to replace and keep the black knobs, i know it needs new mechanism to be more steady, i thought this comes only with the knobs but if the pots are more "generic" parts that i can find i will go this way and fix it on my own (i have soldering iron and know how to use them good so that is not a problem, ive studied computer engineering too , this is more like fun, no worries )
i guess you are write dr Wout , thanx for your tips again  |
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Oli

Joined: May 21, 2008 Posts: 250 Location: i think before i ambient
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:44 am Post subject:
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Not sure if you are aware of this or not, but I'll write it anyway, just in case.
The pots are variable resistors, connected as voltage dividers (variable potentiometers). They come in a few varieties, such as linear or logarithmic taper, multiply ganged, integrated switch, through hole/surface mount, orthogonal/prallel mount, chassis mount w/ wire contacts/pcb mount, varying pin alignments, varying resitance etc.
The trick to replacing PCB components is really in safe removal. It is a lot easier to fit a component to a vacant PCB than it is to remove a component once fitted. One must be careful not to damage plating, pads, tracks etc, and not to overheat the board.
Of course, one can learn to do so. One trick is to cut the pins off the component, and then remove the pins one at a time from the PCB. Use of flux paste, desoldering braid, solder sucker, and a good iron can help. It would be highly advised to get a good amount of practice on something like a broken stereo or mixer, prior to attacking your synth.
I suggest you learn to read the component legending first, and source the replacement components before going any further. Do an eyeball check for fit in all dimensions, and preferably also a multimeter check of any components prior to swapping, if you are not certain of your replacement's suitability. Be ware of measuring values of components mounted on a PCB though, as the electrical net can affect what one thinks one is measuring.
You may be able to find some demonstration videos for desoldering online. There are certainly some around for soldering in general. There are also plenty of fora dealing more specifically with this kind of operation.
Good luck. Hope this helps, and please accept my apologies if I am stating the obvious for you here. _________________ Good good study, day day up! |
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W.T.

Joined: Jul 11, 2004 Posts: 272 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | christos,
christos wrote: | ... (or with indication of the values on screen, which does not exist anyway) | Well. actually, it does exist... Press [Shift+LFO1-wave form] and turn a knob. You'll be surprised
No, this isn't in the Manual, but it's there, only on this forum...
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super cool .... i like these sort of secrets! |
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject:
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W.T. wrote: | ... i like these sort of secrets! | Yep! I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden. (Dutch joke, I'm afraid... )
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24488 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden. |
Nonsense  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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W.T.

Joined: Jul 11, 2004 Posts: 272 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:05 am Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | W.T. wrote: | ... i like these sort of secrets! | Yep! I'm the synth version of Henk van der Meijden. (Dutch joke, I'm afraid... )
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LOL . . . give me some more Henk  |
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:25 am Post subject:
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[Shift+Filter mode] > Notch+HighPassFillter? All three LEDs are burning.
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W.T.

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:16 am Post subject:
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mmmm... i knew that one but now it doesn't work.
when i make the shift + filter type combination it jumps to notch+lp
At first it did ok in single mode but when i went to performance mode (where it didn't work) and back it now also doesn't work in single mode no more.
the leds are ok and i restarted it several times.
never mind i can overcome this sinds i dont use that allpass/notch/hp thing . .  |
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:44 am Post subject:
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W.T. wrote: | mmmm... i knew that one but now it doesn't work.
when i make the shift + filter type combination it jumps to notch+lp  | Strange... You're on a NordLead2X? Quote: | At first it did ok in single mode but when i went to performance mode (where it didn't work) and back it now also doesn't work in single mode no more. | In Performance mode it is the only signnficant mode to use it in: Slot A Notch+LP, short Attack and long Decay; Slot B Notch+HP, long Attack and short Decay. I save the Programs first in Program mode and open them in Performance mode later... Quote: | the leds are ok and i restarted it several times.
never mind i can overcome this sinds i dont use that allpass/notch/hp thing . .  | Sure yo can live wihout, but...
BTW you are holding Shift while pressing Filter mode?
Wout
PS in fact there aren't much differences between 'since'and 'sinds' only they are from different languages  |
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W.T.

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:16 am Post subject:
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It is a nord Rack 1 (os 2.5)
Yes i hold the shift button down, I did it many times before........ wait, wile I am writing this beautiful sentence I tried it again and now it does work...
perhaps it has something to do with the fact that i dumped some sounds in my sequencer and some weird midi/loop thing was taking place....
wait (again) . . now i found out that... when the NR channel is in record mode it doesn't work (it goes to lp+noth) and when it is out of record mode it does work.
when controller data is set to off it works properly
solved . . .
pffffff.................
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PS in fact there aren't much differences between 'since'and 'sinds' only they are from different languages  |
I am certainly not the king of grammar  |
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