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BobTheDog
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| This is good stuff Chet, when do you get time to eat! |
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GovernorSilver
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| ark wrote: | | GovernorSilver wrote: | | From what I gather of the somewhat confusing pricing scheme, existing Live owners who do not own Max or Max/MSP will get a better deal than existing Max or Max/MSP owners who do not have Live. |
I am not quite sure how to make that comparison.
Max for Live lets you write Max patches that run inside Live, period. If you want to use Max outside of Live, I believe you have to pay for Max independently from Max for Live. |
I was just trying to make sense of a pricing scheme that confused me, but has been clarified a bit here by others.
For the record, I already own an old version of Max/MSP, but not the full version of Live.
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GovernorSilver
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| jksuperstar wrote: | At least here in the states, Ableton is selling everything for 20% off since they just turned 10. Happy Birthday to them....and me  |
Thanks for the heads up!
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dasz
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| dorremifasol wrote: | | dasz wrote: | For me, I want a warm analog moog sounding filter, something really rich and warm which self-oscillates and still has a deep frequency range while doing so. it could be mono synth. with midi.
I'm not willing to spend more than $600USD. I am open to suggestions. |
Dasz, may I suggest you a Doepfer Dark Energy?
http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLs6XQxO6uE
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You could not have been more right! I got one finally almost a year later!!! I love it. Thank you, my friend.
Here is my thread on it --- http://www.livepa.org/board/post-47235.html#47235 (including how I use the G2 with it).
I think it is a great partner for the G2, and goes where the G2 simply can't. |
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dorremifasol
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Congratulations, Dasz!
I need to have one of those, but my economics are not well now. I find the DE incredibly sexy. Have you tried the glide add-on?
It seems very well constructed, is it?
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BobTheDog
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I just got a DE and it keeps "hanging", just producing a steady tone as if the VCA Amp control was up.
Even powering it on and off doesn't cure the problem, only removing both power and usb stops it doing it.
Very Annoying, looks like it is going to have to go back! |
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iPassenger
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| BobTheDog wrote: | I just got a DE and it keeps "hanging", just producing a steady tone as if the VCA Amp control was up.
Even powering it on and off doesn't cure the problem, only removing both power and usb stops it doing it.
Very Annoying, looks like it is going to have to go back! |
The DE has USB?
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BobTheDog
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My One does anyway, USB Midi -> 4 x CV.
Useful, if it didn't keep hanging! |
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dasz
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i don't think your de is broken. the amp control works this way by design. it's meant to be used to alter the amp curve and to hold notes. your it down or off, and it won't hang.
use the am control to assign to your envelope and you don't get hanging notes. If you use the one built in envelope with your filter, you may need to drive the amp using gate signal (or envelope).
the synth has one envelope which means you control volume and filter mod simultanously which limits the synth somewhat (or you use the gate signal). This is where I use a CV in the back to mimic another envelope -- which i create in the G2 which turns the signal into MIDI CC signal which then is turned into a CV which it patched to be an amp envelope.
Let me know if you have any questions (see the above mentioned thread on Livepa.org for more info).
let me know how it goes.
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BobTheDog
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Hi Dasz,
It hangs with the Amp control down at 0.
And stops responding to midi.
Cheers
Andy |
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iPassenger
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| BobTheDog wrote: | My One does anyway, USB Midi -> 4 x CV.
Useful, if it didn't keep hanging! |
Oh i see. That is quite cool or at least it will be if you get it sorted out.
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dasz
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| BobTheDog wrote: | Hi Dasz,
It hangs with the Amp control down at 0.
And stops responding to midi.
Cheers
Andy |
Hey Andy, I didn't realize that it's happening at amp = 0. that's strange. does it happen with the midi in port (or just usb?). is the blue env LED (next to the Attack knnob always on (is ithe gate just stuck on?)? have you tried triggering it with the Gate cv output (connected to the gate input?
I hope you can get it sorted out.
Mine will only hold a note, if my g2 patch ( envelope->midi-->cv->de's vca-a connection) outputs a high signal (when it is turned on or patch loading).
Let me know what happens.
/Dasz |
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BobTheDog
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Hi Dasz,
I have not tried with normal midi as I have run out of midi connections.
I have not seen the problem when using gate and pitch from a voyager I am pretty sure it is a usb midi issue of some kind.
Next time it happens I will check the env light, it hasn't gone wrong yet today!
Also I am going to just trying removing the usb when it goes wrong, my guess is that that will stop it.
I will keep you informed.
Cheers
Andy |
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miketheman
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While I still have my expanded engine and won´t let it go until it die on me. Much alike Dasz I´m really into letting my G2 becoming the brain or at least part of it in my system. Coming from a electric guitar (heavily into soundscaping/looping/mangling) viewpoint, I´m not too good of synthesis hardware nor software or even the vocabulary around this synthesis.
But in the event that the G2 era ends too soon. I´m a bit proactive and are investigating a little bit of what could possibly be the next "modular" for me.
What is your impression of AudioMulch or Bidule/Plogue? Are these modular synths or would you define them as something else? Stable?
in the meanwhile it will probably be LOTS of fun connecting my axon (guitar/midi converter), G2 engine, Fractal Audio Ultra and Echoplex Pro Plus... when I find time for it. I realize that I have enough to discover/learn in a lifetime there...
/mike
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dasz
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hey Andy, curious to hear what you found out about your unit.
Me, I think I'm going to write the topic on g2 and dark energy working together.
Inspired by your predicament (of the de signal being always on) I've been tweaking the configuration and testing a more tame de signal (after compression) going directly through the g2 (not midi env driven cc but the de's sound open when the amp knob is doing it's thing).
works decent enough, but I'm not totally happy with everything yet, but close (the reverb in the g2 distorts the de when it's self oscillating -- hmmm ... it could be the verb ...
Cheers,
/Dasz
- integrating fat analog synths into the G2 sound. |
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Winstontaneous
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| miketheman wrote: | But in the event that the G2 era ends too soon. I´m a bit proactive and are investigating a little bit of what could possibly be the next "modular" for me.
What is your impression of AudioMulch or Bidule/Plogue? Are these modular synths or would you define them as something else? Stable?
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I've experimented with many software modulars in the last couple years.
AudioMulch is kind of a patchable modular instrument. You can use its premade generators or your own plugins. To my ears its granular functions sound kind of cheap and harsh, and its lack of LFO/envelope modules is perplexing. That said it has many creative possibilities--longtime user Keiran Hebden (FourTet) is proof of this. The MetaSurface & automation are impressive. There are other things I'd rather spend $189 on ATM.
Bidule is what I'd call a Swiss Army Knife modular...you can build modules from fairly low-level math components, or just use it as a VST plugin that lets you modularly chain other VSTs within a host. excellent deal at $75.
Tassman has fabulous physical modeling sounds but is challenging to program from scratch, and I wish it had more logic modules. $99 summer deal was worth every penny.
VAZ Modular has a primitive interface but is really quick/intuitive and sounds FANTASTIC. Unlike most other soft modulars it's so easy to use that at least half the time I patch from scratch instead of using presets. It has more analog-style randomness than any other software I've used. I have never regretted spending $300 on this instrument.
I find Reason to be a very inspiring environment. With a little creativity it can sound great, and it's rock-solid. Especially with Record it's a good value.
I've tried Reaktor demo. Very deep, almost limitless possibilities but it helps to understand circuit design/programming to get the most out of it. I'd like to get NI Komplete which has a lot of good stuff for $500.
Would like to spend more time with PureData, which similarly calls for better knowledge of acoustics/DSP. Haven't really gotten into Chuck, CSound, or SuperCollider--I like to get away from linguistics when making sounds. |
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buzzr
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| Tried all of those, old news to us for the most part. Anyone use Sonic Core? |
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old bailey
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| sorry buzzr but what is chuck? never heard of it. is it any good? |
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