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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

chet, amazing work!!

I don't see a module for external input, but this is easily done within reaktor anyways.

Will try this out when i have time!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Chet,

What can you tell us about how the modules get connected together to create a patch? I don't see any in or out "jacks" or patch cords like on the G2.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dave, Reaktor has two views of an instrument: the "panel" and the "structure". The G2 shows everything on one screen; the Reaktor "structure" corresponds to the G2's patch cords.

I've attached screen shots of the panel and structure views of an instrument built with the modules. You can see it's still not as friendly as a G2. But it's as close as I've been able to come using Reaktor.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

chet. i'm new to reaktor. i don't see any way to connect an external input to the system? Or am i missing something?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Chet. Ok, I guess I see what's going on.

This is not included in the upload, which makes assembling a new ens hard to do:

* Ampere Modules – A folder that includes all of the modules as separate macro files, grouped by type. Copy this folder into the default Macro path, and it will appear in Reaktor’s macro browser.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

buzzr wrote:
Chet. Ok, I guess I see what's going on.

This is not included in the upload, which makes assembling a new ens hard to do:

* Ampere Modules – A folder that includes all of the modules as separate macro files, grouped by type. Copy this folder into the default Macro path, and it will appear in Reaktor’s macro browser.

The folder with the separate "mdl" files are not in zip file because the UL refuses to transmit them to people. Only "ens" files get transmitted. I'm searching for work-arounds on the NI forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

buzzr wrote:
chet. i'm new to reaktor. i don't see any way to connect an external input to the system? Or am i missing something?


I didn't make an external input module in time for the upload. I've made one now, which will be included in the next update in a day or so (along with a 914 emulation, a 16-voice chorus, and an additional kind of oscillator).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that looks pretty good chat, but putting modules like that(even without connecting them) with the G2 would cause an overload too.
but i agree, i love reaktor!!
i'm not using it life though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

buzzr, attached are the Ampere modules arranged in a directory tree.

Just put the "Ampere Modules" folder inside the "Macros" folder in under your "User Content" folder indicated in your Preferences. They'll then show up in your macro browser. This is how they're supposed to be used, but the NI user library won't let me do it.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Chet. Yes, this works perfectly. Thanks again for all your work !

I've noticed that Reaktor cannot handle feedback. It easily overloads the audio processor. The G2 does not have this problem at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

buzzr wrote:
I've noticed that Reaktor cannot handle feedback. It easily overloads the audio processor. The G2 does not have this problem at all.


do you mean feedback from high resonance filter settings? i noticed this as well, and realized that you need to make adjustments to the output levels of the Voice Combiner and Stereo Output modules. lower the VC level and up the Output volume as needed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've been busy creating some more modules for it. The attached file now has 17 additional modules, including:

--Moog 914 Fixed Filter Bank
--External Stereo Input
--Geiger Oscillator
--Reaktor Waveform Oscillator
--Variophon Oscillator
--Wobbly LFO
--16-Part Chorus
--Static Diffuser Delay
--Envelope Follower
--Modulated ADSR Envelope Generator
--Wave Terrain
--Wave Wrapper
--Dual Logic Inverter
--Dual 2-Input Logic Gate
--Logic Compare
--Logic Edge-Triggered Pulse
--Logic Delay


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cheers impressive! You're making me want to get reaktor now ...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The V7 update contains 11 new modules:

--DX Oscillator
--Stereo 4-Octave Pulse Oscillator
--8-Step Sequencer
--16-Step Sequencer
--Free-Running Sequencer Clock
--Synchronized Sequencer Clock
--30-Band Equalizer
--Crossfading 8-to-1 Selector
--Crossfading 1-to-8 Distributor
--Poly VU Meter
--Common MIDI Controllers

I've also fixed errors in the Static Diffuser Delay and Logic Edge-Triggered Pulse.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi,

I have found my personal software "replacement" for the G2.

http://www.xils-lab.com/

it is half modular but I have a similar working flow like with the G2.

and it is fun to create full tracks only with this synth!

like you can hear here: http://soundcloud.com/rotaphon/peacock-jackson
glad about comments.

another interesting modular combination is now MAX for LIVE.

but anyway the G2 will keep it's place in my setup!!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bdhm wrote:


I have found my personal software "replacement" for the G2.



More than a passing resemblance to a VCS3 then?

I read here, that some dude has ported Supercollider to the iPhone!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Max for Live public beta has just come out.

Maybe a combination of Live and Max could be the answer?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bdhm wrote:

and it is fun to create full tracks only with this synth!

like you can hear here: http://soundcloud.com/rotaphon/peacock-jackson
glad about comments.


I'd say that you were trying to sound too much like Mouse on Mars!!

Enjoyed the track- but it could have done more. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BobTheDog wrote:
Max for Live public beta has just come out.

Maybe a combination of Live and Max could be the answer?


Max For Live looks interesting. From what I gather of the somewhat confusing pricing scheme, existing Live owners who do not own Max or Max/MSP will get a better deal than existing Max or Max/MSP owners who do not have Live. If you own Live, Max For Live is a mere $99. If you own Max/MSP but not Live, you must pay for Live and then pay for Max For Live.

I could have sworn I have one of those "lite" versions of Live lying around somewhere. That might be the most cost effective way for me to get into Live.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

max for live has me curious too.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

GovernorSilver wrote:
From what I gather of the somewhat confusing pricing scheme, existing Live owners who do not own Max or Max/MSP will get a better deal than existing Max or Max/MSP owners who do not have Live.
I am not quite sure how to make that comparison.

Max for Live lets you write Max patches that run inside Live, period. If you want to use Max outside of Live, I believe you have to pay for Max independently from Max for Live.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

At least here in the states, Ableton is selling everything for 20% off since they just turned 10. Happy Birthday to them....and me Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

GovernorSilver wrote:
BobTheDog wrote:
Max for Live public beta has just come out.

Maybe a combination of Live and Max could be the answer?


Max For Live looks interesting. From what I gather of the somewhat confusing pricing scheme, existing Live owners who do not own Max or Max/MSP will get a better deal than existing Max or Max/MSP owners who do not have Live. If you own Live, Max For Live is a mere $99. If you own Max/MSP but not Live, you must pay for Live and then pay for Max For Live.


I don't think that's how it is. If you own Live and Max, Max4Live is $99/€79, if you own just Live it's EUR 249/USD 299, if you own just Max it's EUR 349/USD 449.

http://www.ableton.com/pricing (scroll down to "Max for live")

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://soundcloud.com/rotaphon/peacock-jackson
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I'd say that you were trying to sound too much like Mouse on Mars!!
Enjoyed the track- but it could have done more. Smile

thanks for your comment. I don't try but it sounds like. [-_-]

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More than a passing resemblance to a VCS3 then?

the G2 is a great all in one tool. it is fun for me to create full tracks with the G2. same with the XILS 3 synth. just at the end I am using some EQ and compressor.
same now with MAX for LIVE: I am using it for live performances and realtime processing and to build my own synths. the final tracks I am mastering in LOGIC.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll place one more update to the G2-style Reaktor modules, and then maybe find another home for them.

The attached V8 update contains 11 new modules:
--XY Mouse Controller
--Saxophone Waveguide
--Clarinet Waveguide
--Pipe Waveguide
--32-Sine Cluster Oscillator
--2-Way Crossover
--Space Master 2 Reverb
--8-Step Voltage/Gate Sequencer
--16-Step Voltage/Gate Sequencer
--8-Step Dual Gate Sequencer
--16-Step Dual Gate Sequencer


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