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For my next lunetta I have been thinking about a polyphonic tone generator which strikes an acceptable balance between having a low chip count and not sounding too awful. Here is what I up with:
I started with the frequency ratios for just intonation...
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C D E F G A B
1/1 9/8 5/4 4/3 3/2 5/3 15/8
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then divided through by 15...
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C D E F G A B
1/15 9/120 1/12 4/45 1/10 1/9 1/8
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I decided I could cope with a slightly flat D and F, so simplified to...
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C D E F G A B
1/15 1/13 1/12 1/11 1/10 1/9 1/8
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...familiar Melody Generator stuff. I'm after polyphony, though, so instead of using a mux to select the divisions, I devote a counter to each note. Each counter is hardwired to reset at the appropriate step using diodes:
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note count diodes
C 14 1110
D 12 1100
E 11 1011
F 10 1010
G 9 1001
A 8 1000
B 7 0111
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Then I need to turn the pulses into a squarewave. The 4520 has two 4-bit counters, so I can do the division and then get 4 octaves from the result all on the one chip. A fairly high frequency osc to clock them all, and bingo, plenty of notes to play with.
The concept seemed promising on the breadboard, but I didn't have enough room to fit everything on and get a scale going, so I'll record something once it's soldered.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:55 am Post subject:
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| err, CLOCK A on ICs 2 and 3 should obviously be connect with the others. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:40 am Post subject:
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| That's a promising design, trav. I tried the same with shift register dividers and ended up with a sharp E, F and B (around 2%). But it was alright for the intended purpose. Looking forward to hear how your solution sounds. |
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trav
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Okay, it took a bit of troubleshooting. I don't know what made me think I had to count to one less than the desired division. Also the division by 8 can of course be taken straight from Q2 without having to reset the counter. I decided to take the UnB clock from one of the Q outputs on UnA too, instead of the reset line. My neater-than-usual soldering job was ruined by having to make these changes on the board (lesson: get a bigger breadboard!), but in the end it works. Recording and updated schematic below.
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note division diodes tap
C 15 1111 Q3
D 13 1101 Q3
E 12 1100 Q3
F 11 1011 Q2
G 10 1010 Q2
A 9 1001 Q2
B 8 n/a Q2
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:47 pm Post subject:
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I don't know whether I expected it to be in better tune or not. Maybe I got the divisions wrong or maybe it's just the compromises I mentioned above. The different "modes" (scales starting on different notes) are interesting, though, and there are plenty of harmonic intervals in there, so I am quite pleased with the result. The principle of selecting seven divisions between 1/8 and 1/16 has yielded a good selection of frequencies to play around with; I am sure I'll be happily patching melodies (and chord progressions???) in no time.
First, though, I have to put together a sequencer: patching up a 32-channel mux for the recording was a job in itself! |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | | I decided to take the UnB clock from one of the Q outputs on UnA too, instead of the reset line. |
Using the highest Qn output from QnA will give a wider clock pulse than the short reset pulse. This only means that the clock for the octave divider (UnB) will arrive a bit earlier, but still with the same frequency.
However, check F, G and A. I believe you need to use Q3 there, not Q2. Otherwise there will be two clock signals for UnB per division cycle instead of one. |
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yeah, that's what I was thinking. I first thought that using the Q3 outputs might give some phasing problems
when mixing the notes, but that shouldn't matter since they are already at a different frequency anyway.
However I do also wonder about those F, G, A notes. I haven't given it much thought yet though, it's just my
first impression from looking at it, maybe it does work correct.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject:
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I think it's fine...
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count 0123456789ABCDEF
Q2 ____----____----
Q3 ________--------
note
C(Q3) ________-------
D(Q3) ________-----
E(Q3) ________----
F(Q2) ____----___
G(Q2) ____----__
A(Q2) ____----_
B(Q2) ____----
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I don't know why I decided to do it this way. While troubleshooting I thought the short clock pulses might be a problem, so took the clock from the Q output which gave the longest on time per cycle. Of course that wasn't the problem at all, and using the reset line should work. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject:
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| Correct, Q2 would go HIGH for the second time at 12 (0b1100), but the counter already resets before that. Cool! |
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