Love Deviation

[TripMX]

Hello again everyone, it has been a long time! I would like to present to you all my first original song of 2024! Please wear headphones for best experience!



"Is the prospect of love destined to deviate from your fate?"
-TripMX

[Space Goat Of Neptune]

I like the sound because it's not too intrusive and still present. It's somewhat reminiscent of "Daft Punk". I would have mixed a pushing groove around it. I have a lot of ideas for expanding the song with a nice vocoder voice, but then it would probably be too reminiscent of "Daft Punk".

It's difficult to sound unique these days because many well-known musicians have already implemented almost all the possibilities. A slow motion beat around 60 or 70 bpm would also fit with a lot of reverb, so the song could sound a bit more open out of synchronization.

I would also go that far and say that a second beat could make sense if you put it with double speed over the first one. But there has to be a lot fine tuning with a timing gate expander. Sometimes ideas like that make a song bigger. Let me try and see if I get it done.

I will publish a test mix version. I need to produce the sound and groove so you understand what I try to say. Here it is. I will delete it again. But I have to say, its not mixed and mastered or in any way edited to sound good. Its just a little playing around with some weird gate expanding experiments of EQ filters, plus some additional groove and a slower one on the side with a crazy vocoder in the middle.

Nothing special. You don´t need "Pro Tools" for that. I pushed to EQ range down on all levels and expanded the gate to a degree, so the range can flow with a high amplitude boost through the rest of the EQ spectrum. Sounds weird and like nothing that I ever heard. It has a lot intense bass, high sounds and the middle range has a super crazy sound.

Not really my style of music, but it was funny to do it. I will delete the upload later.

TripMX - Love Deviation - Space Goat Of Neptune Mix

[TripMX]

Hey Silke F, wow thanks for the insightful critique of my song! I'm glad that you like the sound! Also, I totally understand what you're talking about, and it was interesting hearing your take on an broader boosted audio spectrum with that test mix version of yours.

It took me around 6 hours to complete this song, but the reason I made it was because at the time, I was contemplating the ebb and flow of fate itself, which in turn incurred the dark emotional tone that encompasses the song.

[Space Goat Of Neptune]

I like your sound, but I have strange musical tastes and I rarely like anything by other musicians. I like this song of yours and the other one. It's a completely different style and I kind of like the old 80s stuff. If you ever need mixing and mastering or additional sound programming for your music, if something is too difficult for you, let me know. I am available for you. I try to help. Your music is good enough for a larger audience. Your singing and your hairstyle have made me a new fan. You look like a real artist.



Very nice song idea, but this could be a radio hit if it would have a pro studio sound. You need a producer and a studio. Great talent.

[TripMX]

Thank you very much again for being so supportive, and I'm flattered that you appreciate some of my work, Silke F! I'll definitely let you know if I ever may need some professional sound work done for a project. :)

Although I just make music for a fun side hobby, I've always tried to make music that I myself would also like to listen to over the years rather than trying to please a modern audience...even if that meant always being an "underdog" of sorts. I'm also a bit cheap (lol), as I actually make all my music on iOS (iPhone/iPad). From 2011 to 2022, I've been using a basic and somewhat limited iOS music making app (Xewton Music Studio) to make music; it wasn't until 2023 that I decided to update my iOS DAW to a newer higher quality one. Both BreakOUT (2017) and Love Re-Ignited (2022) were made in the old iOS DAW, however Love Deviation (2024) was made with the newer one. I'm pretty sure you probably already could tell the difference in audio acoustics between them.

[Space Goat Of Neptune]

Well, thats nice to hear that people can work with less and still get something done. So you never had interest to work with a regular audio editor? I understand that you don´t need the quality standards that many others would like to have. On the other side, good music or great ideas don´t get better, just because they sound better. The real core quality is the idea and thats it.

People anyway use too many EQs and signal processing tools these days. I try to avoid it, but you always find something, so you start all over again with the old attitude. But you are right, good art is not defined by sound quality or big projects.

You can get it done with a small amount of things. People are so much into heavy hardware and studio equipment these days. People lost the joy of just composing a song or playing around like a child with a toy. You still got this very easy and cool artistic attitude. You could be a great musical character. Of course I´m available for you.

I don´t do a mixing or mastering of my music, so I let it sound low quality, but I would have the options and tools to get it done. I´m more like you in this regard and not so much into sound quality. I´m not signed or under contract, so I don´t have a responsibility.

Thats the cool thing about us, we are unsigned artists, composers and producers, we can do whatever we like. Who cares if someone likes our music? The process is important, not the response of 100 NPCs, that anyway don´t understand the deeper idea of the music.

[TripMX]

To answer your question about interest in working with a regular audio editor, when I first decided that I wanted to get into this hobby, I wanted the easiest most accessible means; at the time, it was certainly the device that I used just about everyday---the iPhone/iPad. Because I was just getting started, I wanted to get something done without being overwhelmed by a super steep learning curve like trying to learn Audacity or some other higher-end programs on PC. The iOS app I used was perfect for getting me started despite it also having a decent learning curve for newbies, hell, I didn't even know what quantizing was until I started using it, lol.

I also agree with you on the process of making music, for each song we make has its own "trials and tribulations" in the creation process. A LOT of my music creations were based on experimentation, luck, accidents, failure, vision, satisfaction, dissatisfaction, etc. However, out of the 100+ songs I made over the years, very few turned out to be to my disappointment, as I do have some basic quality standards that I like to maintain in my work. In any case, I always appreciate each and every listener. ^_^

[Space Goat Of Neptune]

It's completely ok if some people don't start producing music straight away and slowly learn the basics. That's more important anyway and a prerequisite for even understanding how advanced music production works or could work. Most people these days just think that they can download a cool EQ plugin and "Studio One 6" or "Fl Studio" and then everything will go according to plan as expected. But often people lack the knowledge they have not acquired through their own experience with arranging or editing mixes and so on.

The tricks you learn when manipulating sound are also crucial. Good filter plugins produce bad results without knowledge. I learned to work with "Pro Tools", but I don´t need to work with it, so I switched to "Reaper", but I got also other music software and a massive collection of mixing & mastering plugins, plus a high resolution audio interface. But I have to say that high quality sounds boring, so its always better to push the sound quality down. Your music sounds the right way, but a little bit of balance would make a great difference. So if you need help or additional sound engineering, just ask and I will help you.

There are the basics that are simple and there are the more complex edits in music. I'm glad to hear that you're rather modest and seem happy with it. Many people are the opposite and frustrated because they believe that good music is only possible with a certain level of sound plugins or music software. Of course that's not true and most people have the wrong musical mindset. That's why I like how much you've achieved with simple means and many of your songs are very good. I like the simplicity of your song ideas. There is a lot of hit potential in your songs.

However, not many will notice this because the sound is not as mixed as "Lady Gaga" or "Timbaland" and the other musical stars of today. You sound a bit like a cool 80s star to me. Freestyle mixed with RnB would go well with your singing. Also a few slow ballads with guitar and keyboards. You really need a producer to promote you and an agency to market you well. You have this artist personality. I enjoy seeing your old videos. Even if you're just talking about Nindendo games, a guitar with funky beats in the background would fit, as if it were an advertisement. Add a few glitter effects and you would be the coolest melodic retro funk artist on YouTube. Modern times today are so polished. Everything sounds so colorless and perfectly straight forward. Empty and colorless.

To be honest, I like "Pro Tools" more, but I also noticed weaknesses in "Pro Tools" that don't exist in "Reaper", although in my opinion no software for music production is really sophisticated. I would like music software for special arrangements because I think that "Nuendo" isn't particularly outstanding when I think about what I would implement musically myself if it were possible, but my ideas are often pushed against the wall by the limitations of the software. That's why I now work with multiple programs simultaneously and not just with just one program. I'm not interested in simple music. I find it much more fun when I'm working on a complex idea and it's difficult to implement it at all. I'm interested in such cases in music and also in sound. I like complex criminal cases and music production goes in the same direction for me.

You got some good talent. I like it.

[TripMX]

Thanks again for your insightful reply, and you're right, it's not just about what tools you have at your disposal, it's how you learn, understand, experience, and apply them to your work. Pretty much none of my music has been given the professional sound engineer type of mixing and mastering treatment which most relevant music has, only basic level mixing and mastering enough to sound satisfactory. I remember once uploading one of my older songs into an online mastering website only to notice that all they did was increase the volume and reverb by a bit, making it sound louder...I guess it's mainly because of the already limited hardware I used to make that old song. In any case, I now feel kind of motivated to go back and try to "remaster" my old iOS DAW songs via my newer up-to-date iOS DAW since there are more options there to see if I can possibly get something more out of them.

In any case, I've attached one of my earliest musical works that I will soon challenge myself to master via my up-to-date iOS DAW...might not get much out of it though, lol. You can try and play around with it as well if you wish.

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