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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject:
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Anyone?
I recently got a Synare 3 for $100; a fair price i think. I had to remove a faulty user-mod to get it working again, but it sounds great now.
But I was thinking of adding a trigger input, and I'd like to take a look at the schematic.
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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject:
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I just bought a copy of the service manual/schematic. If anyone else needs this, let me know... |
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23isgood

Joined: Nov 18, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: San Francisco, CA bay area
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject:
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Yes please. I could use them. I collect all sorts of info regarding analog drums, as i'm currently designing my own 19" drum rack. |
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goodrevdoc

Joined: Sep 11, 2006 Posts: 288 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject:
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I must admit, i don't need it, but it would be awesome to check out. Isn't the Synare 3 what Flipper used? I think I read that somewhere.
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thapoke
Joined: Oct 07, 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:
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Hi
Ive got a wonky synare 3 that needs a bit of repairing, the manuals would be much appreciated.
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Jamie |
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germaniac
Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 200 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject:
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Hey Eric!
I've also got a Synare 3 that needs some work--the noise generator is weak-sounding. Looked all over but never could find a schematic for it. I'd love to get a copy if it's not a lot of trouble for you. Or maybe I have some documentation you might want in trade? Let me know.
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Joe |
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CJ Miller

Joined: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 368 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:12 am Post subject:
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If you scan them, I'd love to see! I've wanted Synares for years, but have never found a deal for them I could afford. I do have a Drumfire though, and pics of the Synare 3 PCB got me wondering about how similar they might be. I never tire of analog drums! Thanks for your efforts |
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toppobrillo

Joined: Dec 10, 2005 Posts: 766 Location: oakland, ca
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject:
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i'd like to see 'em, i collect and study schematics from allover. study material. |
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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:
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OK, I finaly got the owners and service manuals in the mail. The documents actually include schematics and notes on both the Synare 3 and the Synare 3X, which are apparently fairly different.
The way the service manual is layed out is kind of unusual in that it seperates the schematics for individual parts of the circuit over many pages... so it will take a little time to scan in all the pages... also I don't own a scanner, so I'll have to use one at work...
In other words, it's gonna take a little more time to post/distribute this info. I'll post here again after I make the scans, and then maybe who ever wants them can just give me their e-mail and I'll send you the scans.
I can post also, but it might be too big a file to post the whole thing... I don't really know because I've never tried to post anything like this on a forum before...
Or maybe, if someone has a web site, they could upload the file and make it available to who ever would want it.
Sorry for the delay... but it took a really long time to get to me, and I wasn't expecting it to be more than just a one page schematic. But I'll get it out before long... |
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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:13 am Post subject:
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CJ Miller wrote: | I've wanted Synares for years, but have never found a deal for them I could afford. I do have a Drumfire though, and pics of the Synare 3 PCB got me wondering about how similar they might be. I never tire of analog drums! |
Yeah, I know what you mean... I've always wanted a Synare or Syndrum-- the two original 70s synth drums-- but by the time I got around to shopping for them, they'd already risen in price to a point that I thought was unreasonable. The Synare in particular was used all over recordings by many post-punk and new-wave type bands (Joy Division, Devo, etc) as well as many funk groups (George Clinton, Funkadelic, et al) and disco producers (maybe the more expensive Syndrum was more typical in disco music).
When I first noticed them, they'd routinely sell for around $100, which was OK; But then, all of a sudden--maybe a year and a half ago-- they started selling for more like $300-$500.
I figured the only way I'd be able to get one would be to buy a broken one--for $100 or less-- and fix it-- which is what I did. But I'd now like to do a couple mods (like add a trigger input), so I wanted to see the schematic first.
I like the Drumfire too, but it's not quite as cool, IMO, as the Synare. But both are better, IMO, than the more common 80s Simmons and Techstars.
I think the Syndrum might be the best... it seems to be the most versatile and full featured... but I kind of prefer the construction of the Synare (with the synth and drum controller all in one--instead of seperated). There are also a couple other manufacturers that made analog synth drums more like the Synare-- Multivox, for one; I'm sure these are pretty cool too... and might possibly be bought at a more reasonable price if you can find one. |
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toppobrillo

Joined: Dec 10, 2005 Posts: 766 Location: oakland, ca
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | Or maybe, if someone has a web site, they could upload the file and make it available to who ever would want it.
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i'll put it on my yahoo site for download if you want.
josh |
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vibesmaster
Joined: Aug 26, 2006 Posts: 14 Location: southend on sea,essex,uk
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ickystay
Joined: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject:
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Thanks very much!
I miss seeing an overall view of the circuit, but this format is really educational and interesting. |
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germaniac
Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 200 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Eric for getting a hold of this schemo!
Thanks Vibesmaster for making it available!
I hope to return the favor someday!
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Joe |
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pdman1
Joined: Mar 28, 2007 Posts: 50 Location: North Shore Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:44 am Post subject:
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Just joined and First Post
I just picked up the same Synare Manual from Ebay.
Actually the guy had to resend it because the first one never made it.
That is a sign of a good ebay seller.
Anyways, the Synare 3 has a design issue with the output.
The output is fed directly from a CA 3080.
This should be buffered either with a xistor, or opamp.
I picked up a PCB ( No case , etc ) a while ago.
The PCB was in terrible shape.
All the pots were removed and one of the 3080's was removed.
All the xistors and many components were flattened.
I plan on restoring the PCB and enclosing it in a rack .
I also plan to modify the input so I can trigger it from a sequencer as well as a head.
I'd be interested on any mods or rework that others have done on the Synare 3.
I plan to take pics and post the whole restoration on the web.
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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ickystay
Joined: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:
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Nice link! I love guts!
Did you look at his Coron DS-7? It has 2 more transistors than the DS-7 clone. |
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stinkebeest

Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:45 am Post subject:
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hey guys,
The link to the manual/schematics is not working anymore, does anyone
still have those ? I'd apreciate it.
Cheers,
Rudi |
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austrohungaro

Joined: Dec 23, 2006 Posts: 42 Location: Barcelona (Spain)
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:44 am Post subject:
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stinkebeest wrote: | hey guys,
The link to the manual/schematics is not working anymore, does anyone
still have those ? I'd apreciate it.
Cheers,
Rudi |
Service manuals:
http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-31228.html |
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stinkebeest

Joined: Aug 24, 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:18 am Post subject:
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Thank you !
Cheers,
Rudi |
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