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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Recording in Cubase Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi everyone,

When I want to record the Nord G2 Sound in Cubase Sx, the only choice I have is to record to an audio-track.

Now I heard about the new Access Virus which is supposed to be integrated as a VST Instrument. Does that mean that with such a Virus you can record as if you had a Software VST Instrument, eg edit the notes in the Key Editor and have the Sound of the Hardware Synth.

Would it be possbile someway to do the same with a Nord G2 or do I only have the Audio Record method?

Thanks in adv.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why not record the midi out of your G2 as well as the actual audio? Then you can always alter your midi notes, play it through your G2 again (with the same or different patch), and record again. Or just record midi and have your G2 play that everytime until you're satisfied, then record audio. The new virus may have a slicker integration in a DAW, but with the G2 editor and a DAW I think you can have the same functionality.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I agree with Fozzie. I am having trouble understanding the VST intergration of the new Virus synth...It seems to me like the G2 editor, but set up as a VST instrument within cubase. I have difficulty understanding the functional advantage of this, it just seems like equivelant technology to the G2 editor + a DAW, but consolidated. If anyone can enlighten me, please do so, there might be something I'm missing about this.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zynthetix wrote:
I have difficulty understanding the functional advantage of this


Yes, what's the big deal? Does it mean you can automate parameters without using MIDI? Bypass the DAC/ADC? sleeping
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've loved my Virus b for years.... So what interests me enough to sell the b (and some other gear) to get the TI?

It has new filters that the b did not and wavetables (although there is not much info about this yet)

VST Integration offers a few cool things. You have the editor/librarian built-in and well integrated just like the G2 editor. Of course the Virus TI has much greater polyphony and 16 multi parts. This makes the integrated editor librarian even more useful. When you call up a project in Cubase the Virus is already set and ready to go. This is a big convenience for me.

Also, you no longer need midi or audio cables. The USB 2 connection is supposed to handle both bi-directionally. So, you should be able to pipe any sound in Cubase through the Virus TI effects, or filters or even for the vocoder.

You can take advantage of Cubase automation capabilites. The Virus effects are completely configurable/controllable from Cusbase. Tweaks you do on the hardware interface are immediately reflected and can be recorded as part of the project. This is all doable with the Virus b and CC messages, but I think the new integrated environment will make it easier and more natuural.

The new editor allows for arp programming which should be easier than a hardware interface.... I love arps and really look forward to this feature. The Virus b already had a very creative and useful arp.

So, for me the actual synth engine changes are most interesting, but the integration could offer a lot.... My stance is to be cautiously optimistic. If it was any other synth manufacturer I would have many more doubts, but Access have been excellent with their follow-through on all of their products. I'm hoping for something very special with the TI.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

... what he said ... plus sample accurate sync. No more sloppy midi to audio timing.
plus ... if your laptop doesn't have a low latency audio card and a midi interface you don't have to worry. Just need a USB cable.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is supporting text for this image on the Access site but it appears that I cannot link directly to the page....

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The audio connection in between the VIRUS TI and the virus remote vst instrument or audio unit. Up to 4 mono submixes or 2 stereo submixes can be transmited at once. It’s like working with a virtual instrument including sample accuracy timing. You even can process individual virus parts with additional VST/AU plug-ins.

Connect outboard midi equipment such as keyboards or effects using the VIRUS’ midi interface. No additional midi interface needed.

The VIRUS TI’s main outs become your sequencer’s master outs with studio grade balanced outs. No need for an additional audio interface.

VIRUS TI stands for ease of use. The entire system automatically configures itself.

Use the VIRUS’ audio ins to record an instruments with your sequencer. Again, no need for an additional audio interface.

From a sequencer point of view the VIRUS TI is a combined dual dsp core soundengine, audio- and midi interface. In other words, the most advanced laptop studio available at present.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, we have discussed the DAW integratioin of this instrument in another thread here.. somewhere.. and I still think this is a great idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the tips Fozzie and pardon my lack of knowledge Smile
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