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emdot_ambient
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:46 am Post subject:
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| MickeyDelp wrote: | | That would be a different kind of module - more of a CV record/playback function. |
CV Memory Sequencer (CVMS)...have to remember that name!  _________________ Looking for a certain ratio since 1978 |
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MickeyDelp

Joined: Feb 26, 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Austin TX
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:46 am Post subject:
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| emdot_ambient wrote: | | My ARP Sequencer has jacks out for both quantized and non-quantized CV, which seems a good solution. |
Oh, I like that. Answers my other question too. Non-quantitized voltages go straight through the pots (buffered, natch), and quantitized voltages come from the DAC.
Since, we are heading toward a modular design, we could have one module that has pots, and another with rotary switches, depending on your preference - or mix and match. _________________ MickeyDelp.com
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kkissinger
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:03 am Post subject:
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Most sequencers advance on every trigger. In other words, each stage is active for one tick.
A possible feature would be to set the number of ticks for each stage.
Thus, each stage would be equipped with a switch to set the number of ticks for each stage. _________________ -- Kevin
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MickeyDelp

Joined: Feb 26, 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Austin TX
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:21 am Post subject:
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That is a big one for me too, Kevin. That is what I meant in my original post by "step length (1/2/3/4 beats)". emdot_ambient mentioned it too. _________________ MickeyDelp.com
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jordroid
Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 193 Location: ithaca, new york
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject:
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I have had an idea in my head since seeing an envelope generator made by Boogdish recently in the 2011 build thread, he has a video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKvlIneAobA with the general idea, and it got me thinking of how cool something like that might be as a sequencer-
instead of switches for sequence length and direction, each step would have a three position toggle switch, the sequencer counts between the two outermost switches that are engaged. Center is "off", up is "count to next appropriate switch" and down is "reset to next appropriate switch". The sequencer will count either up or down depending on the relationship of the outermost switches.
Sooooo if switch one is "up" and switch eight is "down" the sequencer will count from one to eight and then reset back to one and start over (1234567812345678...). If we flip switch eight to "up" it will now count from one to eight and then count back down to one (12345678765432...). If we flip switch one "down" it will now count down from eight to one and reset to eight (8765432187654321...). If we flip switch one "off" and switch three "up", for example, it will now count from three up to eight and then back down to three (3456787654...). If we flip switch eight "off" and switch five to "down" it will now count from three up to five and then reset to three (345345...) Hopefully that makes some sense.
It should still do something if there are no switches active, or only one switch is active, so you don't accidentally stop the sequencer from running while you are jamming out. Maybe just count to the end and reset from whichever switch is active if one is, and just count from one to eight and reset if no switches are active. Maybe if only one switch is active count up if the switch is "up" and count down if the switch is "down", for example if all switches are off except switch six is "up" it will count 678678..., if we flip switch six to "down" it will count 654321654321... Or maybe something else, i'm not sure of the best way to deal with only one switch on yet.
Basically you have control over sequence length and direction, and you can reset to any step, not just step one, a major shortcoming of traditional sequencers.
That's my rough sketch of an idea that i think would be super cool to mess with, especially with more than eight steps. No pressure to consider it for this project, i just thought i'd share it
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emdot_ambient
Joined: Nov 22, 2009 Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject:
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Completely different idea:
I've seen some interesting matrix-like sequencers in 3U (like the Make Noise René), none of which I actually understand, not having investigated the 3U field since I'm not fond of its dimensions, small knobs and especially tiny jacks/plugs...
But I can imagine how I'd like a sequencer formatted like those to work.
Basically, each "step" (horizontal step) would really be a 4-step sequencer in its own right (a column of 4 vertical steps) which could be set to its own multiple or subdivision of the master clock.
When a horizontal step is activated, it plays all the vertical steps in its column (each with on, hold and skip settings) at the clock multiple/division set for that column. Only when the vertical sequence is finished does the horizontal movement proceed to the next step...though it would be cool to be able to set the # of repeats each vertical column plays before moving on the the next horizontal step.
In this way you could get multiple pulses per horizontal step with different pitches for each of those pulses, AND each column of vertical steps could be at a different, but rhythmically related, rate, making much more complex melodic/rhythmic arrangements possible.
This would allow you to program "ratcheting" effects without the use of multiple sequencers in concert with a VC sequential switch...or to program sequences of up to 32 steps (assuming an 8X4 step arrangement). _________________ Looking for a certain ratio since 1978 |
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patchdub

Joined: Jan 21, 2009 Posts: 56 Location: Taos, NM
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:55 pm Post subject:
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boring but really useful would be to have both a manual forward and backward step push button. my mfos 16 step has both but my my klee only has a forward. i really like the option to go back and forth while i fine tune the melody.
also really like all the multiple gate options the klee has. perhaps something like that as well as a random or cv controlled gate out.
what ever you come up with im gonna be excited. i can't get enough sequencers these days. _________________ www.patchdub.com |
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MickeyDelp

Joined: Feb 26, 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Austin TX
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:32 am Post subject:
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| patchdub wrote: | | boring but really useful would be to have both a manual forward and backward step push button. my mfos 16 step has both but my my klee only has a forward. i really like the option to go back and forth while i fine tune the melody. |
Very useful, and not at all boring! I was thinking that there will be a pushbutton per step which would turn a step on or off (with a bicolor red/green led indicator) instead of toggle switches. We could also have a rotary switch that controls the function of the pushbuttons. One setting would be for programming the steps on or off, in another setting the buttons would be a gate that plays the individual step for tuning, another setting pressing a button would play the whole sequence starting at that step and going forward, and another setting for playing the sequence from that step backwards. I am liking this concept because it cuts down on the number of controls, saving panel space and cost.
Expanding on the LED-per-step concept and jordroid's comments, maybe an RGB led per step would be even more useful. With the button function switch in program mode, you would hit a step button multiple times to cycle through the step modes.
Then, a step could be:
off: completely ignored
on: included in the sequence
silent: no gate output for the duration of that step
last: sequence restarts
reverse: sequence reverses after playing that step
other modes?
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MickeyDelp

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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:35 am Post subject:
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| patchdub wrote: | | also really like all the multiple gate options the klee has. perhaps something like that as well as a random or cv controlled gate out. |
Patchdub, Would you care to list a few gate options? How would a CV controlled gate out work? _________________ MickeyDelp.com
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patchdub

Joined: Jan 21, 2009 Posts: 56 Location: Taos, NM
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject:
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well the klee has three way switch that selects 1 of 3 gate outs for each step, a rad feature. i don't really know how a cv gate out would work but i imagine it being something like a lfo being able to override the selecting the gate outs instead using switches. i don't know if thats possible or practical but i always want more cv options available with my modules. _________________ www.patchdub.com |
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