Firewire x4 coming- woah! Hold on to your hats n seats!! :D

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:50 am Post subject:

I saw that one! At last! This is great! I still think eSata is cool too, but obviously the firewire protocol does have some advantages for certain stuff.
So.. it is getting ratified in february 2008 and I don´t think it is unreasonable to expect seeing real products as well as Macs with S3200 by that time as well.

Kassen

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:42 am Post subject:

I guess Apple and various partners are hoping to get the S3200 breed of FireWire into consumer gear. That is why the possibility of implementing copy protection on data streams between devices on the FireWire bus is a "cool" feature.

Anyways, this is a different territory because here we have the various RMAs and the media enterprise vultures who will meddle with absolutely anything.
I guess you still remember the goddamn HDMi mess. Rolling Eyes

S3200 is cool and the "copy protection measures" will hopefully not make a mess of prosumer/pro level media work.

Kassen · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:12 am Post subject:

Yeah, it does sound fast&useful, I'm just not at all sure about consumers paying for the privilege of having their computers babysit them.

If I buy a DVD (which is kinda hard as hardly any of them are worth the price, particularly in region2 but never mind) I'm for example perfectly entitled to make backups of it or format-shift it.

As I see it it's all lost sales, if I can't use it like I want to I'm evidently not going to pay for it, I prefer to leave paying extra to be constrained to bank mangers and politicians ;¬).

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:28 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:24 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:27 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:36 am Post subject:

Ok, sorted, but erm, are there actually Mac's that play Blue-Ray?

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:46 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:32 am Post subject:

Fair. I don't care for this new "HD" crap at all either. Maybe they'll fix the rampant compression artefacts and lip-sync issues of DVD. It's true that DVD *can* be better then VHS but most of the time it isn't.

They were right that VHS tapes suffer from fading and bleeding colours after a few plays but is that really worse then colours that look like mosaics and hearing the sound half a second before the lips move?

Then there are HD games, that whole generation has exactly zero interesting games out now (I counted), it's all either first person shooters or marketed at girls and the elderly. Sony even made a rule that no 2d games can appear on the PS3 in the west to make sure they avoid anything cool happening by accident.

Alexander · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject:

Actually, Rez will be re-released in HD on the XBOX360, so that's cool. Oh and there will be "Everyday Shooter" which has a similar concept (look up the youtubes, it's worth it).

But yeah, if we are talking actual titles that are on the shelves right now then it's very ho-hum.

BobTheDog · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:58 am Post subject:

The new Rez is also coming out on the PS3.

Kassen · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:41 am Post subject:

You mean HD? Or a entirely new version?

I'm a bit torn about all this HD stuff. To play HD content I'd need a new TV but all of the games I already have are low resolution yet extremely timing sensitive. The issue is that HD TV's need to up-sample normal signals which takes a few frames so that's a score-wreaking lag.

I dunno what one's supposed to do. Have two TV's? wait for a decade for TV's to get up to speed?

BobTheDog · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: