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chucknorris
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| hey i am in a synth class in which we use a nord modular g2. i am looking into purchasing a synth but don't the 1000-2000 dollars to spend on a nord. i looked at the nord modular that has been discontinued and those are way cheaper. does this have a similar graphical interface. i want something that is similar to the nord for less money. any suggestions |
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Drone
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The Nord modular is a great way to start off. You can you get a used one for a descent price on craigslist, e-bay etc. The trade off is you have to use the midi in/out & a computer to operate it.
The newer modular g2 can run stand alone & the multiple midi connections are no longer required.
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Wout Blommers
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There is also a free Demo G2 to be used on the computer. Some limitations, like only one voice, no AudioIn and no Midi. Also the DX modules aren't available, but you can do FM 
See Clavia's site.
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chucknorris
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yea i have that demo but its really limited and it much softer than the actual nord. i think it sounds different
does the original nord have the same interface as the g2. how does the midi change how i would use it?(not really sure because the only time i have used the inputs on the nord g2 is for a microphone and some people used with the midi in I think) just not sure if that matters two me. also i heard there is no reverb fx is that true. |
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chucknorris
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:03 am Post subject:
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| also what the nord micro all about. i read some of the other post about it but i wasn't really sure. what do i lose with the micro. |
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Wout Blommers
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| chucknorris wrote: | | ... what do i lose with the micro. |
Some functionality. Mostly less Voices per Patch. The sound is different. Less Knobs. But also cheaper abd small...
Anyway, they are harder to get...
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I moved this to the Nord Modular discussion section.
The NM Classic uses MIDI for two purposes, and it has a double set of MIDI connectors. One set is exclusively to be used by the editor program and the other for user MIDI control. The G2 has only the user MIDI port as the connection to the editor is made through USB for that synth. For the G2 the USB connection is for use by the editor exlusively, i.e no sound or MIDI data can be transferred over it.
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chucknorris
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:
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| Wout Blommers wrote: | | chucknorris wrote: | | ... what do i lose with the micro. |
Some functionality. Mostly less Voices per Patch. The sound is different. Less Knobs. But also cheaper abd small...
Anyway, they are harder to get...
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yea cheaper is great |
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chucknorris
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:10 am Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | I moved this to the Nord Modular discussion section.
The NM Classic uses MIDI for two purposes, and it has a double set of MIDI connectors. One set is exclusively to be used by the editor program and the other for user MIDI control. The G2 has only the user MIDI port as the connection to the editor is made through USB for that synth. For the G2 the USB connection is for use by the editor exlusively, i.e no sound or MIDI data can be transferred over it. |
so is there a midi to comp cord that i would have to get as well.
also is the graphics interface similar on the nord classic/micro compared witht he g2
I WANT A G2 WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:02 am Post subject:
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| The graphics interface is very similar. You can actually still download the original NM editor on clavia.se. No need to connect the hardware to try it out. G2 Engine's can be had on the secondhand market for $600 to $700, by the way. |
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chucknorris
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject:
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| the thing is that the Nord modular original is not that much cheaper second hand on ebay. is there a better place to look. IS there a voice filter on the original nord or micro. how many slots does it have? |
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chucknorris
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so i went to vintagesynth.com which is pretty sweet by the way and their is a find the synth for you widget.
this is what it gave me for synths under 500 for electronic music with synth pads and bass although i am really also interested in the drum/percussion
which one of these is similar to the nord if any
Polyphonic Synths
Alesis Micron
Alesis NanoBass
Alesis NanoPiano
Alesis NanoSynth
Alesis S4
Applied Acoustics Lounge Lizard EP
Applied Acoustics Tassman
Casio CZ-1
Casio CZ-101
Casio CZ-1000
Casio CZ-3000
Casio CZ-5000
E-mu Vintage Keys
Electron Sid Station
Ensoniq SQ-80
IK Multimedia Sonik Synth 2
Kawai K4
Kawai K5
Korg DS-8
Korg DW-6000
Korg DW-8000
Korg EX-8000
Korg ElecTribe-A
Korg ElecTribe-M
Korg Legacy Collection
Korg MicroKorg
Korg Poly-61
Native Instruments AbSynth
Native Instruments B4 Tonewheel
Native Instruments FM7
Native Instruments Dynamo
Native Instruments Reaktor
Native Instruments Pro-Five
Native Instruments Pro-52
Native Instruments Pro-53
Native Instruments Vokator
Novation BassStation Keyboard
PPG Wave
Red Sound Systems Darkstar
Roland D-110
Roland D-20
Roland JV-880
Roland SH-32
Steinberg LM-4
Steinberg Model E
Propellerheads Reason
TC|Works Mercury-1
UltraMaster Juno-6
VAZ Modular
Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V
Waldorf Pulse
Yamaha DX-11
Yamaha DX-21
Yamaha DX-27
Yamaha DX-7
Yamaha DX-7mkII
Yamaha DX-9
Yamaha FS1R
Yamaha QS300
Yamaha SY-35
Yamaha TG-33
Yamaha TQ-5
Yamaha TX-802
Yamaha TX-81Z
Yamaha V-50
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:
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| so the nord really is kinda a one of a kind. |
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If you're interested in modular soft synths you could look into VAZ and reaktor.
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usedmanateesalesman
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: |
If you're interested in modular soft synths you could look into VAZ and reaktor. |
Between these two VAZ would be my recommendation for simplicity.
In my experience, reaktor doesn't lend itself to being treated much like an emulation of a hardware modular. It's quite a bit more than that, and is sufficiently more complicated.
If they had a VAZ port for OSX I would probably have been using that. If you want really cream (ha) of the crop, the creamware modular3 is incredibly good. (I miss my creamware rig, but it was replaced with the expanded G2 so I can't really cry too much.) |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject:
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thanks alot man
does anyone know how the hell the vocoder works on the g2. i have a mic running throught it but it doesn't really seem to be doing anything |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | none |
Well, now, come on, Reaktor, VAZ and Tassman do have strong similarities. More then -say- a CZ-1.
The main difference is the hardware and price but if you'd have to list the other differences to a random man on the street his eyes would gloss over by the time you got to explaining what words like "plugin", "block processing", "zero-page" or "physical modelling" mean.
Most patch-wise things that people do with a G2 could be done with Reaktor as well and where you can't the nature of the difference is likely such a complicated matter that it will take quite a long post to explain the how and why to the average G2 or Reaktor user.
I think they are similar synths as far as synthesis in concerned.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject:
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| Kassen wrote: | | I think they are similar synths as far as synthesis in concerned. |
Absolutely, I had just excluded the PC based soft synths (as I tried to indicate in my follow up post), for no good reason really ... especially as I run the G2 emulation mostly nowadays 
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | as I tried to indicate in my follow up post |
Ah, ok, I thought you meant to imply there were differences that were very important to you which you didn't care to mention or something.
It's a bad list anyway, way too long and way too random to be useful.
If the real question is getting a modular system on a student's budget the G2 demo would be a good choice, maybe a Micro Modular or a freeware software modular like Spiral Synth Modular... Maybe even a music programming language. At least there are plenty of choices that have a lot going for them and don't cost 2000 bucks.
Maybe the big question is what chucknorris wants to do with synthesis after his lessons? All else being equal I feel mr. Norris should get into ChucK :¬D
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ChucK is an excellent idea ... especially when you'd want to learn something 
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | ChucK is an excellent idea ... especially when you'd want to learn something |
Yeah, that's what you get with those academic synth-makers. Seems kinda unavoidable :¬).
I'm not sure ChucK would be the first option I'd think of if it's to keep up with lessons in modular synthesis on a G2 though. The workings are quite different as is the focus. Translating the lessons to practice at home would probably cause too much overhead.
Then again that might depend on the focus of the lessons and the temperament of the individual.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject:
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| chucknorris wrote: | | hey i am in a synth class in which we use a nord modular g2. i am looking into purchasing a synth but don't the 1000-2000 dollars to spend on a nord. i looked at the nord modular that has been discontinued and those are way cheaper. does this have a similar graphical interface. i want something that is similar to the nord for less money. any suggestions |
May I ask which school in LA is using a G2?
Is it actually in LA proper, or in The Valley?
I used to live and go to school there myself, so I'm curious.
I took a class in electronic music at LA City College- they had
a modular Moog (not whole),but I don't remember the model 
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