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State Machine
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Joined: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 2810 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:43 am Post subject:
Livewire Electronics Audio Frequency Generator (AFG) Subject description: your thoughts on the module, the company .. etc ..... |
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This really look interesting and saw the NAMM videos. Do any of you have any experiences with Livewire Elec. modules and this company? It seems they are taking preorders but hesitate to do so without knowing how they have been in the past. This is the best place to ask
I am impressed with the timbral animation features of this VCO !!!
http://www.livewire-synthesizers.com/
Thanks in advance fellas !
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Peake

Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1113 Location: Loss Angeles
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:34 am Post subject:
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I got to hear the then-current (no pun) version back last October, and wanted one from that. I don't know if it has changed any since then (the "drift" or "random" feature was jittery as opposed to smooth). |
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State Machine
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Joined: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 2810 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:05 am Post subject:
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Well, here are videos from Summer NAMM that Hexfix93 posted to the "Modular Synth" group. I was very impressed by this VCO. You can be the judge and compare what you saw from October I really like all the modulation sources. This VCO has a real "evil", harmonically rich, sounding bass that I am so attracted to in electronic music these days.
Thanks for your post ...... I am sure your not the only one here that has used Livewires products .......
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-23511.html
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3vcos
Joined: Oct 26, 2006 Posts: 107 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject:
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Please note that there were some changes made to the design since last fall. The stability control is gone. Replaced by a new feature. Its all up on the Livewire website now.
I've had a chance to hear the AFG over at Livewire (the final production version) and its really quite incredible. Not only does it have a vintage sound but the wave shaping section is second to none (ok, well maybe a buchla but lets compare prices...)
Livewire isn't doing the assembly either. Its being handled by an electronics mfr. and produced in production runs.
Peake wrote: | I got to hear the then-current (no pun) version back last October, and wanted one from that. I don't know if it has changed any since then (the "drift" or "random" feature was jittery as opposed to smooth). |
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mono-poly

Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject:
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I am getting no 70.
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amnesia
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:38 am Post subject:
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bearblock

Joined: Sep 27, 2006 Posts: 90 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:
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mono, as a fellow euro-person, where did you buy yours from? i require linear FM and double-pulse waves but i can't figure out their website  |
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mono-poly

Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:
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I just used the livewire website witch lets you order at analogue haven. |
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v-un-v
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Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 8932 Location: Birmingham, England, UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:12 am Post subject:
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I can't see how much $$$ they are? _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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REwire

Joined: Dec 06, 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | I can't see how much $$$ they are? |
Price is $399.00.
Click the link and it will generate an E-mail to Shawn at AnalogueHaven to get you on the list.
I did it first so I will get probably #2. _________________ http://www.REwireMusic.com
Buy REwire - "Bit By Bit" CD at http://cdbaby.com/cd/rewire
Album Promo Video:HERE |
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neandrewthal

Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 672 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:32 am Post subject:
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REwire wrote: | Price is $399.00.
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I`ll pass. At that price I wouldn`t be able to shake the feeling that I stole it  _________________ " I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra |
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State Machine
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:51 am Post subject:
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This is really getting interesting. I would really like to get one but I don't any of modular gear in this form factor. It might be a good time to start All my stuff is either FRAC or DIY 19" rack mounted stuff.
Starting another modular might have to wait. Robin and I are looking at buying another home, preferably with a large basement that I can totally finish off. This would allow me to expand. however, I could just go for this module as a start and integrate it with the rest of my modular:?: Oh this duality is killing me!!!
Well, here is the link to find the price, hear it, see it, pre-order it . etc .....
http://www.livewire-synthesizers.com/
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State Machine
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:52 am Post subject:
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Quote: | `ll pass. At that price I wouldn`t be able to shake the feeling that I stole it |
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State Machine
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:48 am Post subject:
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Quote: | can't really go Euro. got a ton of frac plans right now. but GODDAMN if that ain't the best product page for a modular i've ever seen!! great description, cool pics and damn good amount of sound samps!!!
props to Livewire for sure. |
I second that my friend The sound samples are what really sell it for me to. I have been putting together fracs for a few years so going Euro is whats holing me back from parting with my cash. I wonder if Livewire will ever decide to go frac I believe I will e-mail them and ask .....
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neandrewthal

Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 672 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:43 am Post subject:
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State Machine wrote: | Quote: | `ll pass. At that price I wouldn`t be able to shake the feeling that I stole it |
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Hehe. Actually I`m using MOTM format and I hope my CGS VCO and Saw Animators will do the same thing, but I still think the Livewire is a tremendous value when you compare the price and features against, say a Modcan or MOTM VCO. _________________ " I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra |
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Peake

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:
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If the saw animator is the Cynthia module based upon electronotes, know that it is dependent upon frequency. The effect speeds up with pitch, and unless you can use keytracking to slow it down, the most useful range is in the lower octaves (where it is really nice). |
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Kwote

Joined: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 48 Location: westcoast
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REwire

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject:
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neandrewthal wrote: | Hehe. Actually I`m using MOTM format and I hope my CGS VCO and Saw Animators will do the same thing. |
I have a Saw Animater and it cannot do anything similar to the AFG. The AFG has independent control modulation on the upper and lower pert of the waveform (Saw or Pulse). This lets you create incredibly complex sounds using LFO's or ENV's to evolve an analog waveform in time.
Nothing like this in analog have ever existed so even if you have other you could go ahead and stick one in a little $110 Doepfer Mini-case. _________________ http://www.REwireMusic.com
Buy REwire - "Bit By Bit" CD at http://cdbaby.com/cd/rewire
Album Promo Video:HERE |
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Beermaster
Joined: Oct 22, 2006 Posts: 42 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:
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Looks like a great VCO - I'm numbers 71 + 72.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
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thermionicjunky
Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 90 Location: san francisco
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:
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Actually, about the Saw Animator, the one alteration made to the Electronotes circuit was too eliminate the frequency dependent aspect of it's behavior. |
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Peake

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject:
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thermionicjunky wrote: | Actually, about the Saw Animator, the one alteration made to the Electronotes circuit was too eliminate the frequency dependent aspect of it's behavior. |
Did Cynthia incorporate that fix into later modules? The one I played with, an early unit, acted as I've described. It would be very cool to own one with a fix... |
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thermionicjunky
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject:
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Perhaps I was thinking of something else. Another problem associated with the Hutchins circuit was that the low notes were too heavily affected and the high notes were too lightly affected. That was fixed. Anyway, the AFG seems more versatile. I'm thinking of getting a mini case for it. |
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Parallel Worlds

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ehdyn

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:
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Wondering how it would sound to put the AFG through the saw animator. |
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