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creatorlars

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:15 am Post subject:
Rewiring a Tascam M30 mixer for my synth console Subject description: Any tips and advice appreciated |
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I'm working on a big integrated synth console to cut down on setup time for live performances and save space in the studio. Between patches between the sequencer-->drum modules, drum modules-->mixer, and mixer-->amps, setup was ridiculous and very limiting. So it was either a couple hundred bucks spent on wood, screws, and paint -- or a few hundred bucks spent on more keyboard stands and flight cases...
I have the new console built and painted (pics coming soon!) It has a two rows of 5U height for synth modules (space for 36 single-width dotcom format modules.) Below this, the sloped console portion has two 12U x 19" segments for mixers, sequencers, patch panels, etc. Nothing's mounted yet, though.
Since my rig is drum-module heavy, it's impossible to use without a flexible mixer. I just sold my old one (a recent Yamaha) and bought a vintage Tascam M-30 8 track mixer in perfect condition. I wanted the crunchy vintage pre-amps, 4-bus setup, and parametric EQs (very fun to tweak live for filtering-type effects)... and I think the extremely flexible patching options and submixing ( as designed for a recording-based mixer) will open up a lot of ideas within the modular synth context. Also, most of the panel components are on a single top panel -- a good thing, since I wanted a mixer I could basically gut out of its case and install in a rack-width space in my new sloped console.
I've attached a picture of the mixer. I've taken it apart and there shouldn't be a problem putting rack ears on that top panel to fit nicely... however, I'm not sure what to do with the VU meter display (anyone have suggestions on more space-efficient replacements for these?)
The biggest problem is that all the backpanel jacks are unfortunately RCA-jacks! And as it's oriented for a backpanel, trying to make it fit into the new console is going to be more pain than its worth. So, I'm going to rewire everything (all 60+ jacks) to a 2U patch panel which will sit above the frontpanel. I'll integrate the power switch and hopefully more space-efficient replacements for the VU meters into this panel as well.
So, after all that rambling, here's my main questions...
1) I'd like to have a single IEC connector on the back of the console wired to an internal surge protector/power strip. What sort of electrical/grounding issues can I expect to tackle, having multiple power supplies inside the same console and powering them all from the surge protector connected to the IEC connector? I know to use heavy gauge wire. Should I be careful that aluminum panels from separate power supplies don't touch?
2) I'm building a Voltage-Controlled Light Dimmer module with four outputs (based on the Velleman VC Light Dimmer kits.) Is powering the lights from the surge protector I mentioned going to introduce anything undesirable?
3) On the Tascam back panel, each jack has a separate signal & ground wire. Typically on my synth modules, I ground one jack on each panel and let the panel ground out the other jacks. Could doing this on my new patch panel become an issue for the mixer? Should I purchase plastic/isolated jacks?
4) The IEC connector I bought has an integrated AC Line Filter. Is this going to hurt or help for my usage?
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Rewiring a Tascam M30 mixer for my synth console Subject description: Any tips and advice appreciated |
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| creatorlars wrote: | | 2) I'm building a Voltage-Controlled Light Dimmer module with four outputs (based on the Velleman VC Light Dimmer kits.) Is powering the lights from the surge protector I mentioned going to introduce anything undesirable? |
Dimmers do pretty nasty stuff to the mains voltage so if possible you wouldn't want to combine the same outlets for dimmers and audio. That being said, when the power supplies for the audio stuff are decent and there are no ground loops involving dimmer connections it could work. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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creatorlars

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:27 am Post subject:
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Cool -- I guess I'll find out, anyway!
Must... have.... LFO controlled.... stage lights..... |
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:49 am Post subject:
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| creatorlars wrote: | | Must... have.... LFO controlled.... stage lights..... |
Was afraid so, is a cool idea ... let's hope you are lucky  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:47 am Post subject:
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| With a gate sequencer and a bunch of LFOs & ADSRs, and a quad light dimmer setup, I imagine someone could get pretty crazy with stage lighting. Mainly I just want lights that will accurately respond to the same CV sources that are controlling sound -- so that the light show happens as a byproduct of playing the instrument (and in a much more elegant way than just auto-detecting kick drum frequencies, etc.) |
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject:
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| creatorlars wrote: | | With a gate sequencer and a bunch of LFOs & ADSRs, and a quad light dimmer setup, I imagine someone could get pretty crazy with stage lighting. Mainly I just want lights that will accurately respond to the same CV sources that are controlling sound -- so that the light show happens as a byproduct of playing the instrument (and in a much more elegant way than just auto-detecting kick drum frequencies, etc.) |
Modern DMX lighting can accommodate low voltages (12V is common) and corresponding noise is less. Look around for DMX-able analogue input devices. It wouldn't be hard to build a PIC or ATR thingummy which can read an input voltage and send out DMX. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:38 am Post subject:
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That's a great idea, and probably what I should do --- But, I can get a VC Light Dimmer kit for $15. Not sure how much I'd end up spending on DMX gear... |
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