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Antimon
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:33 am Post subject:
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A couple of days ago the trial against The Pirate Bay began in swedish court. TPB is the worlds largest torrent-tracker, and is charged with soliciting and preparing for crimes against copyright. On the other side are representatives for the international movie and music industries and other parties. There is a lot of media coverage of this event, which is made even more interesting by the fact that the accused take a kind of moral stance, saying that (besides not having violated any law), they are morally in the right, that they a realizing a kind of ideology that is opposed to intellectual property as a concept.
Among other things, this has made me realize that I am a behind (as well as parts of the traditional media) in the modern blog-oriented life - it's all a bit confusing.
Google for the subject of this thread if you're interested.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:49 am Post subject:
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For scandinavians only:
Video: Jon Bing forklarer Pirate Bay saken
http://www.tv2.no/video/?progId=288192
[url=Piratene vil bli dømt]http://aftenbladet.no/underholdning/musikk/990104/-_Piratene_vil_bli_doemt_.html[/url] _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:01 am Post subject:
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I´m expecting the guys to transfer "ownership" of Pirate Bay ( as the infrastructure is already outside of Sweden ), and they will lose the case.. but the court will be reasonably kind to them. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Antimon
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Nah, all things considered this is a pretty cute and cuddly verdict. But they will be back for another round in court. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:48 am Post subject:
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I saw a documentary quite a few years back now, about Swedish prison, being the most liberal system in the world. Is this still true, or are you swilling Gruel once more?
The jury is out for me on illegal downloading. After a few years when I had released my first LP, a friend Kath said that she was really looking forward to listening to my album, as soon as it downloaded from Hotline . I do admit myself to using dodgy software in the past, but these days tend to prefer shareware, because my new opinion is that supporting cracked software only keeps the monopoly with the big boys- such as Adobe for eg. _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:01 am Post subject:
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I say, fry 'em!
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:34 am Post subject:
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I'm surprised you would say that coming from a nation of ex-convicts!  _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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Antimon
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:50 am Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | I saw a documentary quite a few years back now, about Swedish prison, being the most liberal system in the world. Is this still true, or are you swilling Gruel once more?
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Yeah, we're pretty liberal - that's why a lot of local comentators think that especially the one year in prison sentence is harsh. But we're adapting to the standards of the rest of the world.
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The jury is out for me on illegal downloading. After a few years when I had released my first LP, a friend Kath said that she was really looking forward to listening to my album, as soon as it downloaded from Hotline . I do admit myself to using dodgy software in the past, but these days tend to prefer shareware, because my new opinion is that supporting cracked software only keeps the monopoly with the big boys- such as Adobe for eg. |
I'm also on the fence about this. On the one hand it's sad to see technical advancements being held back by market machines, on the other hand content creators should be compensated for their efforts if they are successful enough so that people acually want to use/listen. We need to be able to work professionally with this stuff as other jobs are taken over by machinery.
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:41 am Post subject:
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This whole "If you can get away with stealing, then you have an obligation to do it." bullshit just makes me wanna puke.
"Oh, but I have to steal a copy off the net!! If I paid for it, I wouldn't be able to make the payments on my car!!"
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Johan Zwart

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mono-poly

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:01 am Post subject:
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Imho it's not stealing.
And what about services like Rapidshare?
They are getting paid for providing downloadable stuff.
No one gets paid for that.
I download all my stuff and if i really like it i'll buy an origional anyway. |
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