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echoer
Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 40 Location: lawrence, ks
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:05 am Post subject:
CGS65 Tube VCA Troubleshooting |
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Hello Everyone,
Just finished building a couple Tube VCA's. One works great. The other not so much. I am not getting any sound output from the VCA. I am using a 1J24B Submini Tube I got from Bridechamber.
I've done a bit of troubleshooting already and have compared voltages between the working unit and the non-working unit. I think the problem is a faulty tube but would appreciate your opinions.
Tube Pin Voltages:
Pin # Non-Working Unit
1) 13.68
2) -14.96
3) -.4
4) -13.68
5) -17.47
6) -17.28
Pin # Working Unit
1) 13.68
2) -14.96
3) -.8
4) -14.96
5) 11.81
6) -15.02
Pin 5 seems to be the problem. Followed the schematic and voltage is the same at Pin 1 of the LM358 on both units so I don't believe it is a problem there. Quadruple checked the pins of the Tube are going to the proper holes on the board. Triple checked wiring and polar components.
I also traced the audio signal from the Audio In on the board all the way to the tube and have a strong audio signal the whole path. No output from the TC of the Tube though.
I would be happy to include pics if that would be of any help but I think the Tube Pin Voltages tell most if not all the story.
Thanks in advance for your help. |
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andrewF

Joined: Dec 29, 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:
Re: CGS65 Tube VCA Troubleshooting |
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echoer wrote: |
5) -17.47
6) -17.28
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Hi
to e-m
What power supply are you using to get -17V?
Yes a dead tube is possible, worth exhausting other possibilities before replacing it. i haven't used the 1J24B, can you see the heater glow?
I would have expected the voltage on pin 5 to be the same as that on pin 1 of the LM358, will check on one of mine later (after brekky). |
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andrewF

Joined: Dec 29, 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:
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LM358/1 : -11.8V
tube pin 5 : -10.8V
.....that probably confuses things just perfectly  |
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echoer
Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 40 Location: lawrence, ks
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:26 am Post subject:
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Thanks for you quick help Andrew.
I'm running off 15 V Power Supply (MOTM 900)
There is a 100k resister between Pin 5 of the tube and Pin 1 of the LM358 so that should make the voltages between the two a little off.
I can not see the heater glow on either working or non-working unit. The LED's light up underneath though. |
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echoer
Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 40 Location: lawrence, ks
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:55 am Post subject:
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Update: Scott from Bridechamber sent me another tube for no charge. I installed it last night and the VCA works great now. Thanks to Scott and Andrew for their help. |
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