The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night
And his affections dark as Erebus:
Let no such man be trusted.
People have told me I'm weird since I was a kid. I recently had a panic attack that lead me to a "cardiac neurosis" so I went to a doctor and he told me I had OCD, mental hyperactivity, depression and anxiety... he gave me some meds to regulate serotonin, but I don't take them because I do better without them. I thought I had bipolar disorder but doctor said I don't... he told me I was "excentric." I feel like I'm normal and the world is just f'up. I'm also skinny and can't seem to gain weight.
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject:
gsanchez, ask your doc about Cognitive Behavior Therapy, or CBT. It can really help with OCD. Also for anxiety try deep breathing, sipping on cold water or milk, and distraction techniques like chatting or hobbies or whatever. Meds can be very effective (they are for me) if you give them enough time to work. And that sometimes is years not months. So you gotta stick with it, and yes the meds can make it worse before it gets better. That's just the way it is.
Les _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
Thanks for the advice Les, yes I will be attending to some therapy next week I don't know if it's CBT but sounds similar to it. The meds have strong side effects on me.
I have plans for a new therapy, it involves integrating natural salmon oil, classical music, excercise and an EEG device for neurofeedback therapy (I've been reading several books about it).
Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 6221 Location: near Austin, Tx, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject:
gsanchez, I have chatted with several people in support chats who have had excellent results with techniques like that. Should work well so nice choice.
Les _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
Well that makes three of us, guys. I don't werk any more and I'm mostly happy that way. So I have all, and that means every single minute, of my time for my hobbies. I am limited, however, financially so often times I must leave projects laying around for weeks at a time until i can afford to buy parts or whatever. That part of it really sucks because I worked very hard for many years to get an education, work experience, and a reputation only to be struck down by madness and personal attacks by criminals.
Yet in a way it's better to be fund-restricted because it forces me to be creative and to do my own thing. I just feel I could be so more productive with some kind of side income, but that does not appear to be in the cards. It's also very lonely being poor and labeled as I am, but that's another matter altogether.
Les
If you consider Africa, it's amazing how creative they are with so little money and resources. As always, it's not about what you own but how you use it. BTW, normal is weird
[edit] My grandfather used to say "necessity sharpens ingenuity".
Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 6221 Location: near Austin, Tx, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject:
Yes, when I was a young engineer, an old engineer told me: "Love the constraints". Yet even at the start of that David Lynch interview he says that too much of a financial constraint stifles the creativity. I go for months at a time doing nothing for lack of parts. I can't complain right now as I have parts AND boards, so maybe things are picking up a bit...
Les _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
My only counter to that, I'm able to realize is this:
Norm = money
And having once had money, I learned after I'd thrown it all away haphazardly, just HOW much, I don't LIKE money!
Could that, be it? All those who relate richness / stability in life (all due to the amounts of money, required), to be the 'normal' ones? Leaving the rest of us to be the wierdos?
I recently had a panic attack that lead me to a "cardiac neurosis" so I went to a doctor /.../. I'm also skinny and can't seem to gain weight.
Before engaging in mental-psychological therapy make sure your fysiology is balanced, else the effect will dissappoint.
quote: Common symptoms and signs of hyperthyroidism
* Palpitations
* Heat intolerance
* Nervousness
* Insomnia
* Breathlessness
* Increased bowel movements
* Light or absent menstrual periods
* Fatigue
* Fast heart rate
* Trembling hands
* Weight loss
* Muscle weakness
* Warm moist skin
* Hair loss
* Staring gaze
end of quote
Possible causes:
metal allergy : nickel, palladium, chrome, others. Avoid hair dies, cosmetics, piercings, artificially hardened fats like in margarine.
Other allergies
Occult (chronic) infection/inflamation, often from:
Decayed teeth, especially in the lower molar (wisdom tooth) region, badly erupted wisdom teeth. Non succesful rootcanal treatments.
Have these issues fixed, it's very important. Despite a possible fear of dentists.
Fluoride and other minerals in toothpaste or mouth rinses. Avoid these, they're poison. Brush with water.
(electri-fire has been a holistic dentist/acupuncturist)
Joined: Mar 09, 2008 Posts: 1687 Location: Not here
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject:
Rykhaard wrote:
Norm = money
And having once had money, I learned after I'd thrown it all away haphazardly, just HOW much, I don't LIKE money!
I never equated money with any kind of meaningful importance, but after losing my last FT job and having to fight for disability I was already eligible for, I realised how broken the system is and how pitiful mainstream society's obsession with symbolic bartering tokens is. I now encourage everyone who listens to consider working for a moneyless society.
Joined: Mar 09, 2008 Posts: 1687 Location: Not here
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject:
electri-fire wrote:
Fluoride and other minerals in toothpaste or mouth rinses. Avoid these, they're poison. Brush with water.
Many body care products, including shampoo and conditioner, are made with petroleum by-products. That means they're made with oil - the stuff currently gushing into the gulf. These are toxic chemicals. Make your own shampoo and conditioner. Recipes for homemade natural body care products abound on the internet.
For teeth, there are very good natural pastes that use neem and sodium carbonate. You can also use sodium carbonate by itself on your brush. Use stevia and agave instead of cane sugar, which provides food for the bacteria in your mouth to eat your teeth away.
Joined: Aug 28, 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Guangzhou, China
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject:
Uncle Krunkus wrote:
Beware those who feign normality.
You mean, like Carl Stallings? He commuted to work every day wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase. Then he sat down from 9-5 to write those wack-ass Warner Bros. cartoon soundtracks. Nobody riding the bus with him would have guessed.
Myself? I look normal and that's about as far as it goes.
Myself? I look normal and that's about as far as it goes.
I suppose you may or may not be relieved to know that most people actually do judge a book by it's cover. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there.
I think it's not as easy as that, power is also of great importance to those who are considdered normal. For me that is the most important reason for the state of humanity at the moment. Since the industrial revolution the monetairy system porvides the basis for ALL power. Before a person would be judged on their actions, now it's all about the bank account. The human element is slowly being kicked out of the equation. I absolutely "hate" money. Like so many things in our current society, the context is totally gone. Money was meant to ease trading and save you from carrying around 2 cows and a sheep to get some flower from the baker. Around 2/3 of my highschool class went to study some form of economics, a couple people went into healthcare and very few into technology or science. All economists do is shift imaginary pieces of paper around so they can take some of it home at the end of the day. If all those bright minds would focus their attention on real world issues like science, food, dissease, peace, water, housing, resources, environment, etc. we might actually all be happy.
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I suppose you may or may not be relieved to know that most people actually do judge a book by it's cover.
That's exactly the reason why I think being anonymous is the ultimate freedom. It's absolutely crazy how different people react to you when you grow a beard and forget to do your laundry once, like your a different person. _________________ There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Hunter S. Thompson movies noise
Joined: Jan 23, 2006 Posts: 532 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:21 am Post subject:
hm,
everyone is like a world in her/himself with many unknown/uncharted areas. (as the world(view) is constantly changing so is the norm.)
after finishing high school i worked as extraguard in a closed ward for mentally ill persons. the weirdest thing then was listening to the talks on the bus to and from work.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject:
gsanchez wrote:
Thanks for the advice Les, yes I will be attending to some therapy next week I don't know if it's CBT but sounds similar to it. The meds have strong side effects on me.
I have plans for a new therapy, it involves integrating natural salmon oil, classical music, excercise and an EEG device for neurofeedback therapy (I've been reading several books about it).
Equal parts of disciplined adherence to a plan you believe in and some sense of humor about the duldrums should help to lead back out.
I got depressed for a while after losing my job of 26.5 years and then getting the "Thanks, but no thanks (read: you are too old)" responses out of prospective employers whose interviews, I thought, had gone well for the most part.
I finally came up with the model I call "shit-colored glasses." There is plenty of shit out there, but it's not all shit. If it all looks like shit, it's likely the shit-colored glasses.
A therapist friend said that I was like Austin Powers: I had lost my mojo. _________________ When the stream is deep
my wild little dog frolics,
when shallow, she drinks.
Joined: Mar 09, 2008 Posts: 1687 Location: Not here
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject:
tjookum wrote:
If all those bright minds would focus their attention on real world issues like science, food, dissease, peace, water, housing, resources, environment, etc. we might actually all be happy.
Don't forget another part of the equation: that those in power want us all distracted by this imaginary paper trading so they can continue to feel like The Lords Of The Universe. Quite stupid, because if humanity can get past all this "money" crap, everyone - including these Wannabe Lords - would be happier.
Most of the human race is psychotically insane. We're just the "good" kinda crazy.
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