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Doepfer ribbon controller with Nord Modular?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Doepfer ribbon controller with Nord Modular? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Does anyone have any experience with this? I recently got a Micro for use as an audio processor, but am interested in using it as a synth. I'd prefer to use a ribbon controller over a keybord.

I'm sure it would work, but I'm interested in how well it works. In order to use the "Trautonium" mode of the R2M, the synth needs 5 octaves of pitch bend to get the full effect. Does the Micro have this? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmmmmm, You could internally amplify the pitchbend signal to range over 5 octaves, that should work. What data exactly does this thing send out?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Midi. (CV too, but that's of no use to me). So how would I amplify the pitch bend signal?

Here's what I'm talking about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, I realised it's MIDI, what I wanted to know is *what* MIDI data, when en what you'd like to do with it. For example CC'S and pitchbend would be easy to deal with, NRPN's less so. That page you linked to tells us most of what we need to know.

Amping a pitchbend signal is easy; you take one of the keyboard modules and a amplifier, you patch the pitchbend signal into the amp, then patch the output of the amp to something like a osc. You can then set the amplifier to the disirered amount of amplification, you may need to stack up two amps if multiplying it by 4 isn't enough.

Next up would probably be some way of triggering a envelope. For this we'll take the note on message that the ribbon generates, just patch the "keyboard gate" to a envelope. As I read those specs you should leave the normal keyboard CV out of it all and disable the link to the keyboard that some oscilators have, instead only using the amplified pitchbend signal.

Once you get it all calibrated I think this should work quite well. Pitchbend in the NM is a controll signal like any other; you can scale it to behave like you want it to so 5 octaves would not present a problem.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the response. Sorry for not being more specific, but MIDI is pretty alien to me. I never even considered amplifying a control signal...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Taylor wrote:
Thanks for the response. Sorry for not being more specific, but MIDI is pretty alien to me.


I understand; it's a confusing mess and this ribbon makes some decidedly unusual use of it. You'll get the hang of it, it's good to remember that it's just numbers and that you can do anything to those numbers; it's a way of comunication not some law or something.

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I never even considered amplifying a control signal...


No? Well in that case I would recomend that you experiment with that because a lot can be done there. You can see CV as "the influence of *this* on *that". So; amplifying means you ncrease that influence or decrease it. You can also use waveshapers like the overdrive on CV signals to make the influence non-linear, it's sometimes also interesting to use a lowpass filter set to some *realy* low frequency to make a CV signal more smooth.

If you are interested in alternative ways of being expressive (like your ribbon) then it's very worthwhile to get into treating CV signals.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
You can see CV as "the influence of *this* on *that". So; amplifying means you ncrease that influence or decrease it.


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