sc on windows trouble ?

[Kassen]

[majutsu]

points well taken regarding open source bigotry on my part. i stand corrected.

i really need to look at chuck if you can do this with it now! i had no idea it was that far along. well done!

i have no bigotry to linux and i know it's more secure. on the other hand, the vulnerability of windows (if you know what you're doing) is vastly overestimated by linux and mac cultists. i've run it on and off since 95 and never had a problem ever. of course, karma will probably wipe me out tomorrow. i love linux already; every geek must, right? i've used mac, and have no aversion per se, i just have issues and don't like it. although my work will buy me a new mac, but i don't have the heart to tell them it will only be used for music. and of course, that doesn't help me writing music today or yesterday either. the assumed superiority of mac for arts is really historical, since in the early days mac infiltrated university arts programs at a time when windows focused exclusively on business customers. they are just comfortable with mac, and all the arts apps have a head start on mac. that gap is nearly closed. mac is even going intel themselves, so . . . .

[Kassen]

[Kassen]

Yes, ChucK can do some things very well. I would not recomend trying to emulate a MS20 with it right now though like you might when starting with a G2.

the whole "Mac is for arts" idea tends to come from the same people that loudly proclaim one should not need to be a computer scientist in order to write music, I don't hink that's the same sort of person whoprograms his own musical instruments....

That's not to say it's not a good system, just that some of the often heard opinions are a bit shallow. Those people that considder a comand prompt proof that PC's are inferior probably shouldn't be using chuck.

Just gimme a shout if you'd like my joypad/breakbeat code. It's not that complicated and kinda fun and there is plenty of room for extention. It does asume you have a analogue joypad (the ones that look like playstation pads).

[nescivi]

I guess I need to clarify a few things here also...

GUIs in SC:

on Mac there is standard built in the GUI interface that is used in the documentation mostly (if GUIs are used). This is the Cocoa GUI, and it runs inside the application (which whatever advantages/disadvantages that has).
So this was the first.

Then, on Linux, Stefan Kersten (after making the linux port of SC) made the SCUM interface. The old branch of it, is also run inside the lang (sclangx).
The new version is build after a client/server model, ie. it is a separate application that communicates via OSC with the lang.

I have used the old branch for a while, even wrote help files for it, and it has some nice features the Mac Cocoa gui does not have, like the resize options and autolayout options.
The difference being that with the Cocoa interface you have to say: I want this thing to have this size and be put there, whereas in SCUM you say: I want these sliders next to each other.

So for Linux, SCUM is available, though personally I have not gotten around to check out the new version properly (I still had some problems with it the last time I tried).

To make it more confusing: SCUM should also run on Mac

Then there is SwingOSC, which is a Java osc client to do GUI stuff. Being written in Java it should run on either Mac, Windows or Linux.
The author Hanns Holger Rutz, generally known as Sciss, made the interface in SC very close to the Cocoa classes, generally putting a J in front the class names.
SwingOSC is included in the Windows distribution.


So these are the three main GUI interfaces for SC:

Cocoa - mac only and the oldest
SCUM - linux / mac
SwingOSC - windows / mac / linux

The main difference is still the interface within SC, where the classes all have different names.

But... some people from the SC developer team are working on a wrapper class which generalises the GUI element names, so that you just once set your GUI backend, and then the GUI gets drawn with that backend.
This is in development right now (I believe there is a test version on the swiki now).


MIDI:

to my knowledge works on both Mac and Linux. Not sure about Windows.
Interface from within SC is the same.

HID:

works on Mac and Linux, though SC interface is different.
for Mac use the HIDDeviceService
for Linux use LID.

[lopeysnapes]

just wondering if .scope works for anybody?

Windows SC3 works perfectly for me except for .scope function
what could possibly be wrong?

[dewdrop_world]

[mosc]