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Your 1st Modular attempts ?
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morbius



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't pretend to know Don... his like and dislikes... but I've been told by Buchla owners, and people who have known him for decades, that his thinking is 'when you use a standard keyboard with a synthesizer, you're limited yourself to thinking in a 'tonal' way... and that makes it easy to forget about all of the great stuff that doesn't have a thing to do with chords, key signatures, time signatures, etc.'.

I've read articles where Don, in essence, said about the same thing. And that, this is exactly why he doesn't offer a keyboard. I know that in the early days '63/'64... Bob Moog wasn't sure that he was going to offer a keyboard controller... and kinda for the same reasons. But- once he started getting input from musicians, and 'heard the throng', he knew that what most musicians wanted as a primary controller. Now- Bob told me that, himself.

I always say... what's important is what you, the artist, wants or needs. nothing else matters. What works for one, isn't going to always work for another... and one-size does NOT fit all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quite right... I just don't think the word despise is correct.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

for me just the feel and flow and of course the sounds make modulars worthwhile. thinking about the negative aspects is a little ho hum to me. i do have specific direction in mind but then i think anyone who's serious about music creation should have that.

i did start out with software, then a monosynth and now modulars but i would honestly say i think the learning curve would've been swifter with the modular. of course money might've held me back a bit. but overall i've found that acquiring modules doesn't require big pockets. just patience. the beauty about not getting everything you want at once is you have more time to explore and really get the most out of the sound.

something an all in one synth can't do. some people say patch cords and huge modulars are overwhelming but honestly when you're presented with an analog/digi hybrid finite synth you're mind can explode as well.

my system is modest but i have big plans. for live use i do have a more finite sized modular setup in mind. but for studio the sky's the limit. my goals may change overtime(change is good), but for now i'm cool with my path.

also i love using the modular with and without a keyboard. why close yourself off to either. be it tonal or experimental, i love balance!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: my smile is stuck too
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I get a surprising thrill playing with a stack of modules. I wouldnt dream of limiting the horizon in terms of a finite amount (anymore.. I occasionally play games trying to see what could be compacted into the smallest case and still do worthwhile magic). If you have melodic, polyphonic instruments, I would look for the most sophisiticated, cost effective oscillators, VCAs, modulation sources and timing generators, and use them to do things that most prefab polys are not quite so oriented towards. I think Serge may be the best deal of all, even though the entry fee seems stiff (to me). When you can patch a pitch bending tone farting constantly shifting sound, thats when Im happiest. Melodic
voices over the top of that (if necessary or desireable) could come from any source, but try to get those chaotic, satisfying results from your typical old school analog keyboard, its not going to come close to what a Serge NTO can do.

How neat to see one of my favorite beefheartisms poo(s)ted forth from the land of enchantment! I had to post after that!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Your 1st Modular attempts ?
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ramechling wrote:

QUESTION: So, for those of you who have a desire to begin assembling a .... hmmm..."modest"... "portable".... "finite"(?)... modular synthe....
Is it just me, or do the English descriptions of endless features of modules lead to the "deer-caught-in-headlight" stare at some point ?


It's not just you, I'm also new to the whole modular science & it can be overwhelming with all the different systems, cables, voltages etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Your First Modular
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morbius wrote:
One other thing- I see the synth-world in two groups.... one- systems like Buchla, which is designed pretty much for strictly 'electronic sounds' and experimentation, and then, there's most of the other brands... which are pretty much geared towards creating melodic (tonal) music. You can use the later to do the former... but, it would be more difficult to use the former to do the later (IMO). .


I'm not sure I agree with this. I will go as far as saying that a system may be biased towards one end or the other, but you can make more "normal" music on a Buchla, and you can make funny noises on a Moog.

Current model Buchla systems have a comprehensive MIDI interface that allow you to connect any kind of controller you like.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

also just remember, in general, you can always flip gear if you decide modular is not for you. i see people make back most of what they originally invested on the used forum and ebay, all the time.

of course most of them turn around and buy different modules. Laughing

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