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Battery leaked acid onto the circuit board, was removed but wasn't replaced and all keys were triggering the same note...
Restored in nearly all its glory:
http://soundcloud.com/yashn/dw-8000-strings
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BobTheDog
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| GovernorSilver wrote: | | Congrats, Andy! Hope you have better luck with it than your other recent gear pages, as far as durability and functionality. |
Already on the second one! |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:29 am Post subject:
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| SugarRatz wrote: | just got this
anyone else have one
interested to know what you think |
After you finish getting your mind around it, please write a review (informal). I know there are a lot of people who would be interested. That is of general interest in this community, I'm sure of it.
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YashN
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| Certainly a versatile piece of gear. It's one of the rare gear which can be configured properly to control an Alesis Micron which has some non-standard NRPNs. Since it send configurable NRPNs, the resolution is high, higher than MIDI cc, so that makes for smooth parameter control. |
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DrJustice
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:52 am Post subject:
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| SugarRatz wrote: | just got this
anyone else have one
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I got the keyboard version (49 keys) a while back. It's being used with Cubase 6 and works very well. The Automap software does what it says on the tin. The keyboard itself is a high quality Fatar job. Yeah, I like it 
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Many years ago, I had lusted after the Fingerworks iGesture stuff. Then Apple bought them, and their products disappeared instantly before I could get in.
Years later, the iPad shows up. And it has finally matured to use-able status with the inclusion of CoreMIDI and such. So, I..have given in. I picked up an iPad 2, almost exclusively to use TouchOSC with Ableton Live.
If Android had built in support for MIDI in a likewise manner, and Amazon (who purchased the 'other' multi-touch patent holding company Touchco) made some of the technology more available, I would have saved half the money I spent on the iPad. But whatever, tools are tools, and this tool works for what I need...which is making my computer/DAW less in the box, and more accessible as an instrument.
I mention it now because I was really close to buying a Novation Zero mkII also! But nova-musik ran out of stock, and it made me re-think things. I'm really glad I did. The TouchOSC implementation still has a few bugs to work out, but it's all display related, and the functionality works flawlessly. I highly recommend it! Now to start creating editors for the DSI Evolver, Korg DSS-1, Nord..... |
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laura woodswalker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject:
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| SugarRatz wrote: | just got this
anyone else have one
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OOh!! It just so happens that after I saw my son's Zero I said "I want one of those, but I want the one that has keys!" So I bought the 25 key SLMKii!! (Pronounced 'slim-key'.)
What do I think?
Well, this is actually my *first* MIDI controller so I have nothing to compare it with. That being said: this is a radical piece of gear!!!
I hooked it up to Ableton on my hard drive and was thrilled at all the stuff it could do.
1) It could load Ableton's awesome instruments & effects. I could map parameters of those instruments to 8 shiny, LED-filled dials. (Oooh, shiny!!)
2) it has 8 faders & slots for instrument tracks. So I could switch from one instrument to another & control the volume, pan or sends on each track. Way more access to cool sounds than I have ever been able to get before!
3) It has a row of square buttons that can be configured to play clips in Ableton's session view... giving me access to all my backup tracks... stuff like drum tracks, samples etc. Also, buttons that can be mapped to an entire scene (row of clips) in Ableton.
In a way, this little beast could make my Electribe (drum machine) and Microsampler (samples) obsolete!
The knobs can be mapped to lots of other things in most DAWs and hardware, but someone else will have to tell you about that, because I really don't have much experience in electronica; all I know about are the gadgets I have used.
I will say that for a MIDI newbie, the manual was pretty bad. Manual writers should really assume the user doesn't know anything, rather than have newbies returning the items to the store and saying "it doesn't work" if they have accidentally routed something wrong. If Novation wants to save trees by not printing a manual, how about having a real manual in PDF form. More than 30 pages.
Yes, there was some frustration and a learning curve (which I am still on). Also, I have found that the Automap software is really not necessary for Ableton.
But aside from the inevitable frustration of new gear, I'm loving the SLMKii!! And by the way, after my son played with it (and answered my questions that the manual didn't help me with) he decided to exchange his Zero for the 25! So we are now a 2 SLMKii family. 
Only problem.... if I want to bring it to a performance, I will have to go shopping for a laptop....
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| SugarRatz wrote: | my review might take some time
i just read the userguide and didnt understand a word of it
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Nope, me neither. I just wrote a post about the SLMKii and said that the instrument is great, but the PDF manual sucks.
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| SugarRatz wrote: | i am going through my quarterly agony of trying to get protools 8 to see new kit properly ugh
I am sort of getting addicted to that overwhelming feeling of lonely stupidity
gonna give it some quality time this weekend though |
Yeah...I feel your pain. Been thru it many times! When I couldn't figure out how to get stuff to work, I always felt like quitting music cause I was too dumb. Depression episodes always followed the euphoria of getting gear. (yeah there was always the day when I couldn't get any sound to come out.)
Plus, the Novation manual is completely uninformative!!
I suffer from 'catch-up syndrome'. I finally learn how to use a piece of gear or software... and just about then something comes along & makes it obsolete. I got the hang of Cubase, then Reason was so much better. Now Ableton wiped all of them out! So I'm always a beginner at something new... 
Best of luck.
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There may be some good relevant info here:
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?s=8aec2ca7533f7999b223300c2642b30e&t=193800
Have you tried updating the OS?
| SugarRatz wrote: | i am going through my quarterly agony of trying to get protools 8 to see new kit properly ugh
I am sort of getting addicted to that overwhelming feeling of lonely stupidity
gonna give it some quality time this weekend though |
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Though I did just exchange it for the 25SL, the Zero SL is a very nice controller. The extra long sliders give lots of resolution, and the touch sensitivity for displaying parameter mappings is really useful. The only I miss going to the 25SL is the Crossfader slider in the center.
I've only set it up and used it with Ableton Live, so unfortunately I've got nothing to offer for getting it set up in protools (never used it), but I think you'll find the controller really fun and easy to use once you get everything communicating!
Enjoy!
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| genetique.techno wrote: | The only I miss going to the 25SL is the Crossfader slider in the center'
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a crossfader is a really great idea... wonder if you can build a special module in ableton's effects library for that.
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| laura woodswalker wrote: | | SugarRatz wrote: | i am going through my quarterly agony of trying to get protools 8 to see new kit properly ugh
I am sort of getting addicted to that overwhelming feeling of lonely stupidity
gonna give it some quality time this weekend though |
Yeah...I feel your pain. Been thru it many times! When I couldn't figure out how to get stuff to work, I always felt like quitting music cause I was too dumb. Depression episodes always followed the euphoria of getting gear. (yeah there was always the day when I couldn't get any sound to come out.)
Plus, the Novation manual is completely uninformative!!
I suffer from 'catch-up syndrome'. I finally learn how to use a piece of gear or software... and just about then something comes along & makes it obsolete. I got the hang of Cubase, then Reason was so much better. Now Ableton wiped all of them out! So I'm always a beginner at something new...
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haha
thank god for you tube
i solved it now but the problem is always getting things to see other things i would go ahead and use the userguide as toilet paper but its not ever good at that
oh what fun!!
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| laura woodswalker wrote: |
I suffer from 'catch-up syndrome'. I finally learn how to use a piece of gear or software... and just about then something comes along & makes it obsolete. I got the hang of Cubase, then Reason was so much better. Now Ableton wiped all of them out! So I'm always a beginner at something new...
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That sounds like learning to me, and getting used to the tools. As you may already know, all these programs are based on a fundamental set of rules, and the more programs you know, the more flexible you are too.
My advice is, never stop feeling like a beginner! After more than 20 years I still feel like a noob, because I am never satisfied with what I know and I try to push the boundaries of my comfort zone as much as time will allow. I am a slow learner so things take their time, but that does not bother me as much as it used to.
I have only recently got a setup that I feel like I could spend the rest of my life exploring and it will still keep on challenging me. After two decades of changing things around I think I have reached a more stable time in terms of what I have and I can now start working on how to use it.
All the things you are going through will pay off! It is not always fun to troubleshoot, but in the process you learn a lot about how these things work. More so, perhaps, than if everything just worked as we thought it would.
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| Muied Lumens wrote: | | It is not always fun to troubleshoot, but in the process you learn a lot about how these things work. More so, perhaps, than if everything just worked as we thought it would. |
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| laura woodswalker wrote: | | genetique.techno wrote: | The only I miss going to the 25SL is the Crossfader slider in the center'
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The crossfade functionality is already built into Live, and it's incredibly easy to use. With your 25SL you can easily map a pot to do the fade. In fact this is how I will do it and I'll show you how next time we meet up.
| Muied Lumens wrote: | | I have only recently got a setup that I feel like I could spend the rest of my life exploring and it will still keep on challenging me. |
This is a really great statement, and Laura I believe this can now be the case with the hardware you have. Master the usability of the hardware, and the essentially limitless expansion possibilities that software brings won't seem as daunting. Plus keep in mind you've only been using Live for a few months!
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Maybe split the thread and move the Novation MKII SL discussion to its own topic?
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Finally started recording audio in Live instead of my other DAW (Logic Studio) and so I also feel the pain of you fellow Live newbies.
But so far it seems easier to use than Logic.
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| Muied Lumens wrote: | | I have only recently got a setup that I feel like I could spend the rest of my life exploring and it will still keep on challenging me. |
This is a really great statement, and Laura I believe this can now be the case with the hardware you have. Master the usability of the hardware, and the essentially limitless expansion possibilities that software brings won't seem as daunting. Plus keep in mind you've only been using Live for a few months! |
yep, I feel like a kid who has just walked into a gigantic candy shop and am overwhelmed with the tasty possibilities...how can I taste everything when I only have so much room in my stomach!?
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