A few Q's for OSX G2 users

martin · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:09 pm Post subject: A few Q's for OSX G2 users

Hello,
Just joined this forum. I've had the Modular Rack for many years and by peeking around in the new OSX editor I can see that the G2 is clearly a solid step forward in all directions. And I certainly like the new fast controller assignment - drag'n drop style. So I'm already feeling tempted to get a G2. Small or X I don't know yet.

However, since I don't have the G2 hardware I have a few questions for you OSX guys (I hope there are some here, and I know the OSX editor was released only yesterday..)

1. Does the USB communication with the editor take any significant CPU cycles compared to your other apps?

2. Can the graphical updating of the editor still be turned off like in the classic modular editor to lower bandwidth?

3. Does the USB communication in any way interfere with Logic 6's MIDI on an AMT or Unitor? Any hickups experienced? Or any incompatibilities with other USB devices such as trackballs, iLoks etc?

4. Does the G2 sync to Logic's MIDI-clock just as tight as the classic modular?

Any info appreciated!

Finally I have my fist complaint, and I don't even own the G2 yet! Is it just me or, doesn't the old 3.03 editor look way better graphics wise? With more depth and a slightly more realistic feeling? My first thought was that the G2 modules looks like tiny Java apps from the past. Ahh well, I guess I can get used to it..

Thanks,
m

seraph · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:08 am Post subject:

martin
I did a little research about your location and it looks like you are from Oslo, Norway Idea

Am I right Question

blue hell · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:37 am Post subject: Re: A few Q's for OSX G2 users

mosc · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject:

I run my G2 with a Power Book G4 at 860 MHz, or something like that. I've never seen a USB problem or heavy CPU use, but I generally don't use the editor and other applications simultaneously.

martin · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject:

Hello again,
Thanks for your comments. I'll ask my dealer for a test drive on my own setup to see how the USB works out with Logic/ProToolsHD and everything else going on. My current Modular has never caused any trouble, even on my previous G4 400, but then led activity has always been disabled.

Jan, it's a little odd that led activity can't be disabled in 1.2. Other USB devices than audio interfaces may also need the bandwidth. I think I'll email Clavia to ask if there is a specific reason for leaving it out. My G2 will if so be ran with a dual G5 so it may not be a big issue.

BTW, what happened to classic's FilterBank in the G2? Canceled? Later?

To answer seraph's question, yes I'm located in Oslo, Norway. Land of the midnight sun (northern part), and rainy summers (southern part where I am) Smile

Thanks,
m

blue hell · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:21 am Post subject:

martin · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject:

I'm happy to inform that I can now answer some of my own questions as I got a G2 earlier this summer, still waiting for the expansion board. I'm running the editor on an old standalone TiBook 400 for the time being as my G5 isn't suited for work yet (plagued by mysterious freezes, Apple is working on it and I'm still on my good old OS9 workhorse).

But I did a quick CPU test on the G5 with Activity Monitor and with the MorphingDrumDemo performance as an example example it takes 35-40 % on the Dual 2 GHz G5, quite much actually, four average patches that doesn't interact takes about half of that again, but if I hide the program (Apple-H) the CPU load goes down to a tenth which is nice. It kind of makes up for the missing "Disable LED's" for now. OS X' Exposé function is btw very cool with the G2 editor as it zooms out and spreads all four windows over the screen in realtime.

MIDI sync with Logic/Unitor8 is very good, even better than NM1, and switching from internal to external sync in ClockGenerator plus G2's auto sensing of MIDI Clock makes syncing any patch a breeze.

I still have to check the G2's USB traffic in conjunction with other devices, but I now suspect it will be just fine. I'll let you (and me) know after my G5 is up.

Oh, and I love to finally be able to dump patch sysex right into a Logic song Smile

M

mosc · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject:

Congrats on the new G2. I'm sure you'll enjoy it tremendously...

AngusHastie · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject:

I have just started trying to use my G2 with Logic and while the setup is pretty straight forward, the sync between the Logic clock and the G2 is pretty poor. If you make the G2 slave to the Logic clock, you can see the BPM display on the G2 randomly jumping around the Logic clock speed by about 2BPM in each direction. Not quite sure if this is because I'm using the wrong settings or hardware but I'm surprised it's so inaccurate.

ManuMontevideo · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:00 am Post subject:

martin, I'm waiting for the G5 but now, I'm running the editor on OSX.3 and Ti 800and doesn't eat more CPU.

In Logic 6 PRO I'm not record yet the clavia but I will verify the slave LOgic Clock and ask to another users with other Clavia and synths.