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isak

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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:45 am Post subject:
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Hi xpmtl
i used regular Fairchild ones, 2N3904/06, didnt matched them at all.
if it helps i put them together with thermal grease.
maybe my test is not so clear, i'll explain better.
i have the lite ,midi2cv, it gots only 5 octaves.
http://www.acxsynth.com/midi2cvlite/midi2cvlitefr.htm
when i change the Tune of the ody VCO, to high i got a great scale track up to 9 oct
meaning...say i play C1 it will be perfect up to C5, then i cant get any higher cause the midi2cv lite wont let me, then... changing the Ody VCO Tune so what was C1 now will be C5 then i get perfect scale for higher notes up to 9 or even more
i hope i explain this better now.
cheers,
Isak E. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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xpmtl

Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:25 am Post subject:
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Thanks Isak,
I've soldered thru-hole trannies on the original smd pads (not easy) and now i get 8 octaves perfectly in tune. 9th octave is a tiny bit off.
Used 3904/3906 as you did.
Thanks for your input! _________________ http://sdiy.xpmtl.net |
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isak

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pdman1
Joined: Mar 28, 2007 Posts: 50 Location: North Shore Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject:
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Been off these forums for a while. Does anyone sell already etched PCB's for this Arp VCO?
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isak

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xpmtl

Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:02 am Post subject:
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pdman1 wrote: | Been off these forums for a while. Does anyone sell already etched PCB's for this Arp VCO?
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I'll have dual VCOs + ringmod PCBs to sell in MOTM and EURO format really soon, will be SMD tho.
Just need to order an new prototype to validate some changes.
Check my sig for more info (in projects section). _________________ http://sdiy.xpmtl.net |
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steffensen

Joined: Jul 11, 2012 Posts: 103 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:42 am Post subject:
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xpmtl wrote: |
I'll have dual VCOs + ringmod PCBs to sell in MOTM and EURO format really soon, will be SMD tho.
Just need to order an new prototype to validate some changes.
Check my sig for more info (in projects section). |
SMD - interesting. How did you solve the issue with matching of the BJT's and possible JFET's i wonder? |
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xpmtl

Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:07 am Post subject:
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I didn't
Results are pitiful with smd transistors for the expo pair but quite good with thru-hole 2N3904/3906. I had matched a series of transistors so i used a pair with the same values and epoxied them together. So it's not a matched pair per say but it should be really close. I get 8 octaves of usable tracking, 9th octave is a bit off but stll usable.
I've ordered some matched pairs in sot-323 format (BC846bpn & mmdt3946) to test, If it doesn't work i'll stick with the thru-hole pair.
Don't think the fets need to be matched.
I read somewhere that the expo pairs in the oddy weren't matched, so.... _________________ http://sdiy.xpmtl.net |
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steffensen

Joined: Jul 11, 2012 Posts: 103 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:14 am Post subject:
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xpmtl wrote: | I didn't
Results are pitiful with smd transistors for the expo pair but quite good with thru-hole 2N3904/3906. I had matched a series of transistors so i used a pair with the same values and epoxied them together. So it's not a matched pair per say but it should be really close. I get 8 octaves of usable tracking, 9th octave is a bit off but stll usable.
I've ordered some matched pairs in sot-323 format (BC846bpn & mmdt3946) to test, If it doesn't work i'll stick with the thru-hole pair.
Don't think the fets need to be matched.
I read somewhere that the expo pairs in the oddy weren't matched, so.... |
Thought so.. been looking for a alternative myself, to match SMD BJT's & JFET's.
I would be highly interested on how you find the matched SOT-23's to work, please let me know once you have tried them.
Yea, matching isn't essential for the tracking imo. It's enough if you use the ones from the same tape. (when it comes to TH anyway) |
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xpmtl

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:44 am Post subject:
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Well matching is for temperature stability so it won't affect tracking anyways, what i look for is having the two but in one package possibly on the same die (i doubt they will).
BTW why do you think the FETs should be matched?
I'll keep you inform of the results. _________________ http://sdiy.xpmtl.net |
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steffensen

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:18 am Post subject:
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xpmtl wrote: | Well matching is for temperature stability so it won't affect tracking anyways, what i look for is having the two but in one package possibly on the same die (i doubt they will).
BTW why do you think the FETs should be matched?
I'll keep you inform of the results. |
Yes, sorry, i meant drifting not tracking.
Regarding FET's, I'm just going by own experience here regarding another kind of related VCO.
Would be nice if there was a SMD option, thats all.
Anyhow, looking forward to your results! |
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patroche
Joined: Feb 26, 2012 Posts: 16 Location: montelimar
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isak

Joined: Dec 13, 2009 Posts: 847 Location: Israel
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:30 am Post subject:
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Nice job my friend, well done!
Any vid clip to see the beast in action? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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Sebo

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patroche
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isak

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patroche
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isak

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patroche
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Zodiak

Joined: May 20, 2007 Posts: 249 Location: Gillingham, Kent UK
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject:
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Nice job, that must have taken ages, you must be proud
Whats next a MiniMoog?
PS Where did you get the slider and switch caps from? _________________ Stephen
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patroche
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isak

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:32 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the links!
Where did you get the big pcb's boards from? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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patroche
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Sebo

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:03 am Post subject:
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Thanks for sharing patroche!!! _________________ Sebo
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Zodiak

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Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the pointer to the caps, I have been looking for them at a reasonable price for ages. _________________ Stephen
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