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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:08 am    Post subject: graphics on front panels
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Hi all,

I was watching "how it's made" on discovery channel and there was 10 minute demonstration of making public clocks. And the way they did numbers, dots for minutes and all that graphics amazed me. First it was printed on some kind of paper in mirror and put on aluminum sheet. Then it was smeared with some kind of chemical and that chemical released toner form paper to aluminum. I don't know what kind of paper was it, what kind of toner was it and what kind of chemical was it...my kid was yelling and banging around...
So, anyone knows how it's made????? Or maybe someone watched this episode? Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry I can't help... But that sounds interesting I'm on the look out for that episode now! I did watch the episode about crossbows and the hexagonal washer machine that was aweome. Aside from Sdiy I'm also alittle bit of a alliance guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

alliance guy? Don't get it :-/
If you can find that episode please share your source on PM Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: graphics on front panels
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a.b.o.z. wrote:
First it was printed on some kind of paper in mirror and put on aluminum sheet. Then it was smeared with some kind of chemical and that chemical released toner form paper to aluminum. I don't know what kind of paper was it, what kind of toner was it and what kind of chemical was it...my kid was yelling and banging around...


Not this? perchance?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: graphics on front panels
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a.b.o.z. wrote:
I was watching "how it's made" on discovery channel and there was 10 minute demonstration of making public clocks. And the way they did numbers, dots for minutes and all that graphics amazed me. First it was printed on some kind of paper in mirror and put on aluminum sheet. Then it was smeared with some kind of chemical and that chemical released toner form paper to aluminum. I don't know what kind of paper was it, what kind of toner was it and what kind of chemical was it...my kid was yelling and banging around...

obviously a kind of transfer method Laughing
why chemicals? why not just ironing? like press'n'peel blue, and a lot of people get even better results using catalogue paper of a certain kind (search the forum).

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a.b.o.z. wrote:
alliance guy? Don't get it :-/
If you can find that episode please share your source on PM Smile


Sorry stupid iPod with the auto spel check mistake. Alliance guy=appliance guy. Sorry for the confusion. Luckily I think my four month old was alittle mesmarized by show and not loud at all. She needed a break from yo gabba gabba!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: graphics on front panels
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fonik wrote:

obviously a kind of transfer method Laughing
why chemicals? why not just ironing? like press'n'peel blue, and a lot of people get even better results using catalogue paper of a certain kind (search the forum).

I just want to compare both methods. This one with chemicals seems easier...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hopefully not OT, actually it fits this threads headline, i think:

in the past i used schaeffer and their front panel services. the panels look very nice, and they do all the drilling for you, even rectangular cutouts, holes for countersunk screws and whatnot.
nevertheless you are limited in fonts and graphics and it is quite expensive (even though i do the color fill by myself).

this week i will try the services of this company (site in german - sorry): http://www.gravoprintec.de/produkte/eloxalschild/eloxalschild.php. they do what is called "eloxaldruck" in german. the color gets inclosed into the anodized layer of the aluminium panel, so it is even solvent resistant. you can just send them a pdf. i will have to do all the drilling, though.
i am very curious about the results.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have used acetone to transfer photocopies onto masonite and similar surfaces.
It definitely dissolves the toner, but I don't know how well it will stick to aluminum.
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