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Whats the deal with MP3 encoding?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

One of the first things mp3 encoders do is reduce stereo information. If there is bass in the file, that is the first place the stereo is reduced. So, if your recordings have stereo bass content, it can have an unwanted side effect of bass reduction.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
One of the first things mp3 encoders do is reduce stereo information. If there is bass in the file, that is the first place the stereo is reduced. So, if your recordings have stereo bass content, it can have an unwanted side effect of bass reduction.

Great point.

It's also interesting to note that lower tones are less directional than higher tones...more of those frequencies are felt rather than heard...so it's less important to place the bass somewhere other than near-center in the stereo field. Consequently if you're mixing/mastering a track that you're ultimately going to be encoding to MP3, you might as well put the bass mainly in the center of the stereo field, thus minimizing its loss post-encoding.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And as a side note...the major labels have announced that they're going to stop producing music CDs by the end of 2012 (except for limited edition runs by specific artists), opting instead for downloads only.

I find it fascinating that society at large has collectively decided that portability, accesibility and speed of downloading is more important that sound quality. When CDs first came out, sound quality was a major selling point (disputed though that claim has become). Holds more music, less distortion, wider frequency range, less prone to audio degredation due to repeated plays.

Now it's like, F-- that, gimme lossy digital files!

I wonder what that says about our culture (and whether it will spur the continued comeback of vinyl).

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I once worked on HDTV back in the early 90s. The techies were working on making the picture beautiful. There was a huge international poll taken about HDTV in 1990. The result was that when people asked what they would like in next generation TV, the VAST majority said: better programs. No one was interested in better quality pictures.

The irony is, even though the new TVs can produce better pictures, virtually all delivery mechanisms (cable, broadcast, etc.) use just awful compression resulting in really shitty pictures, and the programs are still shitty.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's always somethin', innit? That's how they git yuh.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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And as a side note...the major labels have announced that they're going to stop producing music CDs by the end of 2012 (except for limited edition runs by specific artists), opting instead for downloads only.


Um...no they haven't.There isn't anything out there that's remotely credible even as far as rumors go.No major label will even comment on it.I call Bull.
There are still plenty of units of CD's being sold.In fact,I just read today that sales are actually up somewhat in CD's vinyl and even CASSETTES!
(remember those?)
This is not to say that it won't happen sometime,but this is just a rumor IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
No one was interested in better quality pictures.



I voted for better picture! Cool
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