autechre untilted WARP180CD

Unfed · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject:

i'm sure it'd be worth it for playing 45rpm tracks at 33rpm...

Stanley Pain · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:21 am Post subject:

richard s · Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 76 Location: uk

This thread has been really nice for me as I only had Amber when it started and you guys have encouraged me to buy almost every Auteche record available (and incidently, sell most of my Arvo Part CDs on Amazon to pay for it!). I've enjoyed listening to them all and think I will for years to come. I loved Caberet Voltaire as a kid (I even tried to sing like Stephen Mallinder) and I think AE take that tradition to a new level.

LP5 is really the most polished and complete statement and I think everyone should at least hear it, but the recent albums are really very unique and interesting, I think parts of Draft 7.30 sounds a little like some of Jan's noodling, I'd be fascinated to find out if Jan thought that was just pop music too!

I think AE address key issues often ignored by electronicists: their music has structure and development, it has huge variety, they DO go beyond the drum loops, especially in the recent albums; they are looking for and finding an emotional core in electronic sounds (is this music experimental? no, its finished, its results, not process). I think the work is really physically concerned with sound and not some idea about sound or attachment to particular sounds or any particular and technology.

I don't know how original they are, but I do think they succeed where many have failed - in making the technology they use truly their own. I kinda like the idea that it is more "musical" than Stockhausen (ha, his recent stuff is bad!, listen to Synthy-Fou, synthy-foucking shit more like!) in some wierd way that could be true, though I like a lot of Stockhausen's earlier stuff too. Stockhausen, and Adorno, could never separate regular rhythm from Nazism, it reminded them of the sound of jackboots... its a shame, that is a limitation because it disconnects music from the truth of the body - a truth I am very attached to. Presumably he looks down on all Brazilian music too, which for me would be like hating the beat of my own heart!

Of course I ramble, but nice thread, even if it was probably totally enabled by illegal downloading.

rock on

Richard

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:21 am Post subject:

............ Shocked

............. Question

...selling the Arvo Part CDs? Shocked

OMG

blue hell · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:22 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:34 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:37 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:39 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:42 am Post subject:

richard s · Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 76 Location: uk

Well, I kept Passio... Smile

I still love that one. BTW... I've been listening (belatedly) to some of that chicago post rock stuff - a lot of it sounds like Part and Gorecki played (quite badly) on guitars to me - and mostly not in a good way. The Tired Sounds of Sounds of the Lid is an interesting one though, music for sleeping in the best possible sense of the term... acoustic-ish ambient music, but again there's a noodle-like quality in that it's movements are mysterious but not all arbitrary, you just can't reduce it to a linear human intellegence behind it

Music, music, music... I'm probably just avoiding learning how to use my G2 properly, but I'm also in a major period of listening research/clearing out possessions at the moment, selling hundreds of LPs and CDs and buying dozens of new ones... I'm surprised to rediscover this teenage sense of urgency to hear what other people are doing... its quite nice... I've never heard of Ton Bruynel, can you recommend one?

BTW Do you guys know Xenakis's La legend d'Eer?? That is one extraordinary cosmically-inspired piece of electronic music - quite overwhelming... I also rebought Electronic Music with Lewin Richter, Walter Carlos etc. on the Turnabout label from 1966 (?)... a bizzare little record of tape manipulation and RCA modular sounds which i realise had a formative influence on me back in the day

at the same time as listening to this stuff I'm getting a dance record I wrote played on rBBC Radio 1 by Peter Tong at present... the most commercial bit of music I've ever done, surreal how these things rub against each other...

Richard

mother misty · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:

finally... last night was the night, I've seen them live in antwerp.

This was a really stunning live act, one of the best things I've ever seen in my life! (and I've seen lots of electronic live acts)
This was so pure, so full of energy, so... live!
(they didn't even use a laptop, pure hardware stuff)

I was able to get veerrrrryy close, so close i could see something red in their rack.... now, what could that have been Smile

k.e.p. · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:02 am Post subject:

inversekinematics · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:08 am Post subject:

cebec · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:

cool Mother!!

I saw them in washington, d.c., during the Confield tour... It was very dark in there and packed with people. The whole room vibrated from the bass. It was like a sweat lodge for industrial robots...

I'm seeing them again on May 6th and I can't wait... been listening to the new album a lot and got to buy it on CD, yesterday.

mother misty · Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:

Stanley Pain · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:36 am Post subject:

i think Autechre are a bit like Prince when they play live... in that their albums are starting points for tangents, or recording an album is a snapshot of their work in progress as opposed to a stand alone body of music that is regurgitated live (not that i'm knocking that method... hey, it was fun watching Chemical Brothers mime live!)

i think that when i saw them, their live show bore most resemblance to their current album... although they still went off on tangents. i'm gonna have to post an example of my G2 work soon...

digital19 · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 13

If anyone is interested there is this little live snippet:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/idm/416342.html?view=1506390#t1506390

it includes what has to be some of the worst camera work i've seen. You can't see the rack, but you do see a machinedrum.

Afro88 · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject:

Stanley Pain · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:01 am Post subject:

sorry Afrokid... didn't mean to hurt your feelings Wink

i love the chems to bits. last time i saw them was in 1996, and it was awesome to behold. yeah... i know they're doing live stuff now, and it is really interesting. perhaps not the best example.

let's all lay into prodigy instead!

Very Happy

Afro88 · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:55 am Post subject:

hehe, it's all good - just being a Chemical Brothers fanboy Laughing

eposk · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject:

just got my tickets for the Portland show! cant wait. I think they are using some machinedrums and a monomachine too. Gotta love the hardware.

inversekinematics · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:

Anyone got a bootleg of some of their live performances?

I only have their first show at SE1 Club in London in mp3.
Have seen a mp3 of Effenaar club too, but couldn't download it. Please let me know Smile

zynthetix · Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject:

I caught autechre live in Philadelphia yesterday. This thread has covered topics from albums to live music, so I thought a quick blurb here might be better than a full fledged review.

I really haven't heard anything by Autechre since their EP7/7.2 stuff, so I didn't know what to expect exactly. There was a DJ that opened with a traditional set-up, doing some consistent dance beats and switching up what was playing over the beat periodically. The set that followed was a duo that I can't remember the name of ( snb(live) maybe?). They had some minimal and consistent bass, snare, hat, and simple lead sounds with very frequent real-time rhythm alterations on all sounds mentioned.

Autechre started nearly immediatley after their predecessors stopped. It was very dark, they didn't have any lights on the stage or dance floor, so I couldn't really tell what the gear was other than some blinking lights on what appeared to be a step sequencing device. I was aware that autechre is a duo, but I could only see one of them due to the lack of lighting. The set seemed very dance oriented with a consistent tempo throughout, as delivered by a pulsating bass drum and snare sounds that altered periodically. There were some real-time melodies and bass lines being played, in addition to some intresting percussive fills/breaks. Toward the end of their set, a lot of (what sounded like Max/MSP) re-samples and audio warping started happening over the beat. This was what I found to be the most interesting part of the set.

This might have been a faithful re-interpretation of their latest record, but I haven't heard it. It is not what I expected based off of older records, but I guess that surprise kicks in when you don't keep up on an artist. As an overall conclusion, the music struck me (in my balcony seat) as something more intended for the people on the dance floor.