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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ian...

After some careful thought, I highly recommend two albums of theirs. the 1998 self-titled album which was released on the Nothing and Warp labels. It's organic, with a wide range timbral colors, polyrhythms and tasteful (i.e., artful) use of DSP. And from 1996, Tri Repetae: more clangorous and abrasive with emphasis on the groove. The second disc is a collection of EPs from the same couple of years. The 1997 release you're referring to could be Chiastic Slide or an accompanying EP.
If you want to go a bit further back for more overt melody and a 'classic' IDM atmosphere with carefully, deliberately layered songs and an apparent trajectory toward a somber and menacing climax.
For the ultimate in 'bits of wood, plastic and metal in the washing machine (or drying machine) with the emphasis on wicked intricate deconstructions of everything from hip hop and electro to tribal, hollowed-tree-trunk-pounding frenzy and sparse or well-buried melodic/harmonic elements, look no further than Confield or
Draft 7:30.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Does it have to be new? I mean, do they have to reinvent gunpowder or something?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah I suppose it doesn't... I'm not the biggest fan of glitchy music, so I guess I was looking for something different than the usual in this release the way people are raving about it all over the net... But I'm gonna shut up now, I don't know much about this kind of music, all I know is what I do and don't like.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I don´t like glithcy stuff that much either, but a lot of what I have found posted here is more like it. Very Happy I guess I will pass on the Autechre thing and get more Arvo Pärt.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if you don't dig it then you don't dig it, but i'd suggest checking out their first three albums which may give a better idea of where they're coming from:

Incunabula (1994)
Amber (1994)
Tri Repetae (1996) get the '++' version if possible, it's got the 'Garbage' and 'Anvil Vapre' EPs on the second disc

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Unfed wrote:
if you don't dig it then you don't dig it, but i'd suggest checking out their first three albums which may give a better idea of where they're coming from:

Incunabula (1994)
Amber (1994)
Tri Repetae (1996) get the '++' version if possible, it's got the 'Garbage' and 'Anvil Vapre' EPs on the second disc


i personally think amber is excellent with 'silverside' and 'slip' as highlights...no glitch on this album...glitch gives me an itch i just can't scratch..as i cynically mentioned before, it is just too 'clever' for me...very self-referential..which is ok but a little like heavy metal wanking on a guitar..and, as afrokid poiinted out, it's all getting a little tired and repetitive..it is not the heady 90's anymore

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

though i've got all their releases, besides 'Basscadet' and the other title tracks i'm not sure that i even know a single track name Sad . actually i'm like this with most all my albums, but just noticed it makes it hard to pick out single tracks to recommend to someone.

while i don't think they're Nord users, i have really come to love another Warp/Skam duo by the name of Boards of Canada. lovely music, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: i would recommend Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i would recommend AE5.

it's my favourite album of theirs, although i like what i've heard of untilted.

i rekon that with AE5 they achieved their best balance of innovation with tried and tested dance formulas. there was a lot of repetitive hypnotic patterns that featured nice subtle evolutions of synth patches.

i also love the track that slows down all the way through and ends at the same speed it begins. there are some nice lush harmonies and timbres on the album, and the experimentalism is mostly in the timbre. which is nice.

i think you're better off listening to Webern or Stockhausen if you want genuine experimentalism.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: recommendation Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would recommend cichli suite - mechanically reclaimed by autechre. 5 track EP from 1997, very nice.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There seems to be alot of confusion about their titles Smile
I think stanley means LP5 (which is indeed a nice one)
I also would recommend Amber & Tri Repetae, classic stuff, almost 10 years old now, but still very good. If you're looking for more experimental stuff check their newer stuff (confield, gantz graf, untilted, ...)
or maybe their alter ego Gescom, they did some wicked stuff aswell...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: recommendation Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

inversekinematics wrote:
I would recommend cichli suite - mechanically reclaimed by autechre. 5 track EP from 1997, very nice.


yep, and according to their SOS interview, done almost completely using the original Nord Lead...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I decided to dust off my ae Draft 7.30 LP to see what all this hype was about. Whilst taking it out of the sleeve I dropped it and scratched the shit out of it as it lanced off the side of my Yamaha EX5. To be honest I couldn't tell the scratches from the "grooves". I just don't get this "music" yet. It sounds like a bunch of toddlers got loose in my studio and started randomly hitting buttons and turning knobs. My dog has been giving me one of those "head-turned-sideways" looks for the past 30 minutes as if to say "What the f**k was that racket?".
Someone earlier compared this stuff to G2 noodles, but I could (and do) listen to noodles from Jan, Ian, Mother Misty etc all day long and love them.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

grimley wrote:
To be honest I couldn't tell the scratches from the "grooves". I just don't get this "music" yet. It sounds like a bunch of toddlers got loose in my studio and started randomly hitting buttons and turning knobs. My dog has been giving me one of those "head-turned-sideways" looks for the past 30 minutes as if to say "What the f**k was that racket?"

gee...what a review Exclamation THX Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

grimley wrote:
I couldn't tell the scratches from the "grooves".


LOL

But it's inersesting to read the polarized views of different people - indeffernce, as I did expessed somewhere before, seems to be rare - another reason for me to retry listening some day.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
I guess I will pass on the Autechre thing and get more Arvo Pärt.


Very Happy

( which one would be best to relief lower back pain, I wonder ? )

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Arvi would probably be the smartest choice, but he sure won´t cure lebensangst though. The ECM Misere release is great, and the ECM sound is kinda contained. The music is still in there.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zynthetix wrote:
autechre makes some very neat music, worth some listens at the very least, but two things disagree with me:

1) I have heard them mention in an interview that they practically rewire their studio for every song, affirming their "studio as an instrument" idea.


This is backtracking a bit, but I've been following this thread and wanted to clarify my own statement for relevance. Creative process of how a peice of music was written should not have the ultimate bearing on one's opinion of the peice in entirety. How it sounds in the end, and one's reaction to the sound has a lot of importance. I don't think I made that clear at all in my previous statement. I suppose it would have been better to say that I can't relate to some of ae's music in addition to their process, but not that the two are necessarily related.

I also failed to mention what I do like. That self titled L.P. on Nothing/Warp records has some gems on it, I'd recommend it to anyone as an intro to Autechre.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

zynthetix wrote:
[The] Creative process of how a peice of music was written should not have the ultimate bearing on one's opinion of the peice in entirety. How it sounds in the end, and one's reaction to the sound has a lot of importance.


i could not agree more...

music is a 'heart' thing and not a head thing..or, we could programme robots to do it and wash our hands of the whole affair..but that just wouldn;'t work

mind you..a small point about autechre..they probably are laughing all the way to the bank...

do not forget that a lot of 'experimental' artists disdain their audience as 'unwashed masses' and enjoy pulling the wool over the audiences' eyes..

..so 'fans', keep that in mind as you fund their studios

..no heart

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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For the ultimate in 'bits of wood, plastic and metal in the washing machine (or drying machine)


..or you can just stick your head inside a dynamo to get the same effect Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

paul e. wrote:

mind you..a small point about autechre..they probably are laughing all the way to the bank...

do not forget that a lot of 'experimental' artists disdain their audience as 'unwashed masses' and enjoy pulling the wool over the audiences' eyes..


This reminds a bit of Richard D. James, aka Aphex Twin, also on warp records. His last major release was entitled "26 Remixes For Cash". I didn't end up buying it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy Remixes for cash - I didn't regret buying it.
As remixing is most of the times a cash business
i didn't even feel riped.
Some strange definition of drum n bass on same of the remixes.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not all albums with sarcastic titles are rips. Don't forget Zappa's We're Only In It For The Money...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Not all albums with sarcastic titles are rips. Don't forget Zappa's We're Only In It For The Money...


incidentally, i loved lp5 so much that i got it on vinyl as well as CD. don't bother with the vinyl release (unless you dj).

the CD is far better.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ah! thanks for the tip Stanley. I love that album so much I'd probably have purchased it on vinyl, too, if I came across it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cebec wrote:
ah! thanks for the tip Stanley. I love that album so much I'd probably have purchased it on vinyl, too, if I came across it.


hehe, same for me.. when I really like an ep/album I'll buy it in every available format! Smile

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