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sebber
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:36 am Post subject:
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Hello everybody,
my Vista needed a fresh install so I try Windows 7. Almost all apps work, except 2, which both have to do with sound - one of them is the Demo 1.40
I get the "not enough memory" pop-up, which can't be the case. The other program (SonicStage Mastering Studio) asked if an engine (apparently an old sound engine) was correctly installed.
So, I guess no help here. What do you think?
Best
Sebastian _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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buzzr
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:41 am Post subject:
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Seems obvious to try 1.6 doesn't it? |
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sebber
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:57 am Post subject:
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The demo didn't get updated. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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buzzr
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject:
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opps...you are right. I think the demo will not be updated. The G2 is discontinued... |
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blue hell
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject:
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Are there compatibility modes maybe that work? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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sebber
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:15 am Post subject:
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Nope, none. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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cappy2112
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:
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sebber wrote: | Nope, none. |
Go back to Vista or XP. Stick with something that works. _________________ Free Tibet. Release the Panchen Lama from prison. Let the Dalai Lama return to his home. |
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sebber
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:09 am Post subject:
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Is Vista really something that works? I switched to W7 because I hope for a renewed XP. XP, although I really liked it, is now an old system and my laptop won't have all the functions.
And before people tell me to switch platforms, be it OS/2, OSX, CP/M Plus or Knoppix: just leave it. If you know a trick how I can make the Demo run under W7, I'm very grateful. Otherwise don't tell me what to do, please.
If I'm very lucky the thing will run in the final version. If not, I'll have to think long and hard for a replacement. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:
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sebber wrote: | If I'm very lucky the thing will run in the final version. If not, I'll have to think long and hard for a replacement. |
Would be a bummer ... I now realize I asked two questions before and am not sure which one you answered ... anyway, when it does not have a compatibility mode at all at the moment I'd expect it to come back ... when it is present but it does not work ... hmm ... I don't even want to think about that _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:44 am Post subject:
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Windows 7 has compatibility mode!
Right-click on the Exe or shortcut, click properties, click compatibility tab.
Also don't get your hopes up, Windows 7 is basically Vista with some bits turned off and some new hacks and a different name. |
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BobTheDog
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sebber
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:
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That might work. But I can't use the Demo as tool for e.g. http://modular.sebastianberweck.de/ anymore. People won't install another OS, be it real or virtual. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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BobTheDog
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cappy2112
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:
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sebber wrote: | People won't install another OS, be it real or virtual. |
Not true. Vitualization is a hot issue these days. Many people are running multiple OS"s concurrently. Many companies are using virtualization to cut equipment costs.
I've opted to run Linux in a VM just so I dont have to setup my laptop for dual boot, I know Mac users running Windows in a VM for similar reasons.
If I download something I suspect may be buggy or infected, I launch it in an XP vm first. If t crashes, who cares. I can just re-start the VM, or even the previous snapshot of it. _________________ Free Tibet. Release the Panchen Lama from prison. Let the Dalai Lama return to his home. |
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sebber
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:07 am Post subject:
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Ah, sorry, I wasn't clear. W7 has a very convenient compatibility mode, I think they made a good job there.
Since the program opens but then claims to have not enough memory I don't know if it has to do with the sound enginge at all. But we'll see, Realtek just has new drivers for W7, I'm downloading them right now.
Right now about 90% of all programs work fine and right away. 5% need compatibility or another tweak.
My estimate of virtual machines on computers in private households is below 1%. I know so many people who don't even install programs... so, virtualization is a wonderful and fascinating thing. But if you teach classical musicians who just hate everything that looks like a computer and feel insecure when they have to plug it in, forget it. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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sebber
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:13 am Post subject:
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The editor v1.62 works, btw. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:19 am Post subject:
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Ah, just read your post again I misunderstood |
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sebber
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:22 am Post subject:
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When googling "not enough memory to perform requested action" only two results, both concerning the Demo, come up. Clavia came up with a unique error message! Not bad _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:21 am Post subject:
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sebber wrote: | When googling "not enough memory to perform requested action" only two results, both concerning the Demo, come up. Clavia came up with a unique error message! Not bad :D |
Thats not as odd as it seems, windows has a memory manager that is then being used by the runtime envirment of the programming language the app is written in (usually a spmewhat largish chunk of memory is requested from windows which is then sub-allocated for the application). When a memory request fails it's good practice to handle that situation from the application itself, usually by displaying a text to the user, but it would be possible to clean up stuff and retry.
Still it would be odd when there really would be a lack of memory, more likely a bug is involved. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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BobTheDog
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:22 am Post subject:
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I have seen similar error messages in apps when they can't create files on the disk.
Does the editor create any temp files? |
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:35 am Post subject:
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Only thing I can find is : C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Clavia\Modular G2 Demo.pref but the editor should have such a file too. And there is some stuff in the registry too, but that could be install time only.
The contents of my pref file are :
Code: | Version 15
[Options]
3 1000 0 1 1 0
[/Options]
[Window Positions]
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
971 131 1663 215 1 0 1
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
[/Window Positions]
[Browser]
0 0 0 0 0
[/Browser]
[Stand Alone]
(DirectSound) Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio (With EC))
Disabled
96000 0
[/Stand Alone]
[Recent Files]
C:\Users\jan\AppData\Local\Temp\brusselsseq_dz_152.pch2
C:\Users\jan\AppData\Local\Temp\chopperv1_748.pch2
C:\Users\jan\AppData\Local\Temp\acidizer_2_119.pch2
C:\Users\jan\AppData\Local\Temp\saw_blade_cafe_101.pch2
C:\Users\jan\AppData\Local\Temp\chatterbox_204.pch2
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_________________ Jan
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Oli
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:23 am Post subject:
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BobTheDog wrote: | I have seen similar error messages in apps when they can't create files on the disk.
Does the editor create any temp files? |
Perhaps a permissions issue? I don't use Win7 or Vista, but I believe they have stricter permission control than XP. If the program is not operating with sufficient privileges, then perhaps it fails to perform a write operation?
Just guessing though. I have seen some strange error messages in Linux due to this. The messages don't necessarily reflect the cause. _________________ Good good study, day day up! |
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sebber
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:19 am Post subject:
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Installing Audio-Drivers didn't bring the expected results. I'm pretty sure the error appears when the Demo tries to reach the Audiosystem. It happens at start-up and when trying to reach the Audio/MIDI-Settings. Everything else works fine - except for no sound. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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Chrono
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject:
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Thanks some highlights in the robhordijk examples have been an extra upgrade for me im blowing away the Virus TI Snow at ease with my new 46 unison voices patch. |
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sebber
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject:
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Solved!
It's been the audiodrivers of a software called Audials that blocked something. I installed but never used Audials, because something is so obviously immoral about this program, let it go to hell. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive. |
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