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Tenine
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TekniK
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JovianPyx
Joined: Nov 20, 2007 Posts: 1988 Location: West Red Spot, Jupiter
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:50 am Post subject:
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Professor Aaron Lanterman is on the Synth-DIY email forum and he is an awesome nice guy, very helpful. You might want to subscribe to the list and ask there, he has studied Buchla quite a bit and is very knowledgable.
And that bit of circuitry is a interestingly odd! Buchla is "famous" for that sort of thing. The weird FET thing is just, well, weird. _________________ FPGA, dsPIC and Fatman Synth Stuff
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abovenyquist
Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Posts: 55 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:28 am Post subject:
Re: Question about Buchla Timbre circuit |
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Ooops, sorry... be sure you are looking at the latest version:
http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~lanterma/buchla/boards/mea_timbre/mea_timbre_rev1_schem.png
Yeah, the FET is operating like a voltage-controlled resistor. Think about it like this:
R17 (68K) and R19 (33K) form a voltage divider that cuts down the audio input a bit. Assume for a moment that C2 is shorted (it's just a DC blocking cap) and the JFET isn't there. IC1B is acting like a non-inverting amplifier, with a gain of (1 + R20/R21) = (1 + 33K/330K). Now, putting the FET in parallel with R21 means that as the FET starts conducting, as controlled by the voltage put on the gate through R22, that 330K in the formula decreases and the gain goes up.
R18 is feeds some of the audio signal into the gate as part of a trick to help linearize the behavior of the FET. You can read about it here:
http://www.vishay.com/docs/70598/70598.pdf (see Figure 6)
This trick of using a JFET as a voltage-controlled resistor shows up a lot. Compressor like the 1176 use a voltage divider with the JFET as the "lower leg" of the divider (the "shunt" part of the divider). Using the JFET in the way it is in the Buchla circuit is less common, I think. The only compressor I know of that uses a JFET that way is the API 525:
http://danalexanderaudio.com/ApiInfo/525Cschem.jpg
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thermionicjunky
Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 90 Location: san francisco
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Since this has been resurrected, I'd like to suggest a correction. Dave Brown pointed out on his build page that R19 appears to be 3k3 rather than 33k in the original schematic. I agree with him. It is much easier to get the gain structure correct with more severe attenuation at this node. It could even be more severe, considering how hot most VCO outputs are compared to Buchla's. |
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thermionicjunky
Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 90 Location: san francisco
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:45 am Post subject:
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Another builder, with the aid of a circuit simulator, discovered that the gate-source cutoff voltage of the J201 does not match the original 2n4341 well enough. The J112 is closer, and will provide a better parameter range. |
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jurekprzezdziecki
Joined: Mar 22, 2016 Posts: 68 Location: warsaw
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:32 am Post subject:
Re: Question about Buchla Timbre circuit |
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Thanks for this great circuit. So the REV 1 is the latest schematics version including all those errors mentioned on your site? Or it's already fixed?
Thanks Jurek |
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