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NM1 producing no sound thru speakers
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: NM1 producing no sound thru speakers
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I've got an electric guitar plugged into a Blue Tube channel 1 input, the channel 1 output goes to AudioIn R of an NM1. PC in and out on the NM1 are going to in and out B of a USB midisport 2x2, whose usb i/o is plugged into the back of my iMac g5 running os 10.4.10. the guitar cable is good when tested on a cable tester. the LEDs on the Blue Tube as well as the eq bar on the audio in in the NMEditor screen show they're getting sound input from the guitar. I get sound when I plug headphones straight into the Nord. I get sound from the speakers when I use iTunes. I've put 3 consecutive amplifiers cranked all the way up in my patch. No sound in the speakers from either the computer or plugging the speakers' eq/amp straight into the nord. i don't know what is different from the last time i used it, when it worked fine. to boot, my little sister came over to visit to see the Nord and I want to get it working for her to jam on! Help!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How is the audio out from the Nord getting to the iMac?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Any change the audio routing on the Out module (buttons labelled as 1/2 - 3/4) is set to other physical Out connection which aren't connect to yous system?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the midi/usb interface connects my computer to the nord.

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Any change the audio routing on the Out module (buttons labelled as 1/2 - 3/4) is set to other physical Out connection which aren't connect to yous system?

Wout


i unfortunately don't understand what you are trying to tell me here.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbinkovitz wrote:
i unfortunately don't understand what you are trying to tell me here.
In the Patch in the Editor there is always a module at the end which is called 'Output' and mostly carries a number...
There are buttons (destination) to direct the sounds to the four outputs of the Modular. Are they set right?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bbinkovitz wrote:
the midi/usb interface connects my computer to the nord.


Only for controlling the Nord from the editor, I don't think the midisport has audio and the Nords cant transmit audio over the midi bus. Do you have 3.5mm audio in on the mac or RCA?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
I don't think the midisport has audio


I'm absolutely sure it doesn't.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
g2ian wrote:
I don't think the midisport has audio


I'm absolutely sure it doesn't.


true, but when the speakers and their associated mixer and amp are receiving the output of the nord directly, i still get no sound from them, even when i get sound from the same output using headphones. a chain of six amplifiers in my patch failed to remedy this.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Right. So you made some oops in the routing somewhere.

Let's go over this;

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I've got an electric guitar plugged into a Blue Tube channel 1 input, the channel 1 output goes to AudioIn R of an NM1.


Ok. so you are connecting a guitar to the NM.

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I get sound when I plug headphones straight into the Nord.


Wonderfull, so we'll asume your patch is ok and that's not the problem.

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I get sound from the speakers when I use iTunes.


Ok, so that means your Mac is conected to the speakers in some way and that these speakers work.

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PC in and out on the NM1 are going to in and out B of a USB midisport 2x2, whose usb i/o is plugged into the back of my iMac g5 running os 10.4.10.


That's good, that means you'll be able to edit the NM. This doesn't, however, have anything to do with the sound at all.

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No sound in the speakers from either the computer or plugging the speakers' eq/amp straight into the nord.


Ok, this is where it all gets very confusing. Just a few lines ago you told us that there WAS sound coming from the speakers when those were pluged into your computer. Also; what is this "eq /amp" stuff that belongs to the speakers? It's not at all clear HOW you are conecting things and without any doubt that's where the problem lies.

If you want to get sound from the NM coming put of the speakers then NM will need to be connected to a amplifier. That amplifier may or may not be build into your speakers but somewhere there will be a amplifier. At least one cable will need to go from the NM's line out plugs to a input on the amplifier.

It could also be that you are using a mixer. In that case the mixer will need to be conected to the amplifier which will in turn be conected to the speakers. In this case both your computer and your NM will need to be conected to the mixer.

Yet another posibility is that you aren't using a mixer and that the computer connects to the amplifier and that the NM sends (or should send) it's audio to the computer, letting the computer work as a sort of mixer. Note that in this scenario there will still need to be at least one audio cable coming out of the NM and going to your soundcard, the "pc in/out" cables are just for editing and carry no audio.

So; what you need to do is trace the path of the audio, from the NM to the speakers. If there is no sound coming out of the speakers this means that somewhere a cable is missing or some setting is set the wrong way. Perhaps you accidentally set a channel (either on your mixer or in the soundcard's settings) to be muted? Perhaps you just conected the cables for the editor and MIDI but forgot the audio cable?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
Also; what is this "eq /amp" stuff that belongs to the speakers? It's not at all clear HOW you are conecting things and without any doubt that's where the problem lies.


it's a mixer and an amp and an equalizer. it's all in a rack that smokris set up in our living room that we use for everything. it works for the computer, it works for the record player. usually it works for the nord.

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Perhaps you just conected the cables for the editor and MIDI but forgot the audio cable?


i'm thinking this must have been the problem; however, it's too late to check since smokris took the nord and all the cables away from the computer because we needed them to do a show last weekend Cool but i think i was confused about which cables were for editing and which were for sound.

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