Nord Modular G3

buzzr · Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject:

I can't afford to purchase a Sonic Core Xite-1, a new laptop (I only have mac computers) a PCI card for the laptop, Modular IV, and Flexor. All this would be around $4,500.00, so it's going to have to wait.

Wish I could today! .... Confused

jksuperstar · Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject:

It comes bundled with so many effects, synths, models of old synths, mixers, virtual ADAT recorder, mixers, and Modular III, that I've got plenty to keep me busy before I even need to add the extra modules from Modular IV and the 3rd party ones.

After I sell a few things, then I'll fund the extras.

buzzr · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject:

I've listened to some of the special oscillators in modular IV, I just have to get that when I get the system, they are great!

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iPassenger · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:13 am Post subject:

dorremifasol · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:16 am Post subject:

Maybe the price difference is because in Europe, VAT is included. As far as I know in the USA each state has to apply its own taxes to that price, so maybe it's not that different in the end.

iPassenger · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:18 am Post subject:

I think this scope system sounds and looks incredible but your still very reliant on a pc here, more so than with the nords really. I think if I had 4K to spend on a modular, I'd probably look at building a pretty serious eurorack set-up. Not quite the same though and scope does look like the nearest thing to the next Nord Mod.

Personally I am hoping that Nord don't bring out another modular, blasphemy I know but I just made a pact with my missus that my next serious gear purchase is going to be the last for quite some time... A new modular would cause some arguments! Laughing

iPassenger · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:23 am Post subject:

hurolura · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:02 am Post subject:

hurolura · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:26 am Post subject:

DrJustice · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:44 am Post subject:

hurolura · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:18 am Post subject:

The script tool is NOT included in the SDK (as far as I know).

I think it was available in the previous DP tool (Developper Package) which is no longer available for a long time but which is owned by the different third party. People having the DP are/were allowed by CreamWare to sell directly the devices they produce.
People having the SDK (like me) are just allowed to provide their devices to the community as freebies (or find another agreement with SC).

But you still can do a lot with the SDK.

And you can also do a lot with the modular 2/III itself and just ask kind people to design with the SDK the module you miss (there are wishlist on severall forums for that purpose).

BobTheDog · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:34 am Post subject:

Any idea when the SDK may be coming for XITE, I asked about 6 months ago and they said soon!

buzzr · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:55 am Post subject:

I've had a Pacarana and returned it after a month. Nice system, but it was a slow sluggish system and language to work with. I've also looked into hardware (eurorack) modulars. And while they sound great, when you price point what Scope delivers, there is no comparison. Scope easily wins..the amount of modules, and effects are just staggering. It's like getting a 50k system...

BobTheDog · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:00 am Post subject:

Slow/Sluggish!

I must admit I don't find that.

Confusing is what I find it Smile

I see them as two totally different things anyway, Kyma is a sort of sound sculpting tool where Xcite is a bloody large synth/fx engine.

buzzr · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:24 am Post subject:

That's what I meant by slow and sluggish..when you compare the two systems and the usability, there is no comparison..

hurolura · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:38 am Post subject:

No idea about the SDK release but last time they said "soon" it was for Xite-1 and Scope 5 and it just took them neraly 2 years to get the thing out ...

Once again, the Modular 2/III/IV is already a nice thing to play with and is the easier to learn for clavia modular users (similar spirit and philosophy).

Moreover, we are in the Modular G2 discussion forum, no ?

If you look at what is provided by the Scope/Xite systems and looks for a new hybrid DSP modular synth, this one has to be checked.

buzzr · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject:

How would you compare the sound to a G2? I'm also looking at hardware at Eurorack systems as well....

hurolura · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject:

Hard to compare the sounds.
I think having both type of system is good.
I prefer the sound of the CreamWare stuff but this is just my opinion.
The SonicCore Modular (excuse me I said CreamWare) can be warmer to my ears copared to the type of sound I get from the MicroModular or G2 which sounds more digital to me (if it has any sense to write that).

Regarding the oscillator, the G2 had the Phase Modulation and DX/FM type which was not available or least elaborate on the CW Modular 2/III, but now you can have similar stuff fro free (DX part) or within the Modular IV (for the phase mod CZ Osc).
I also find the bass part of the oscillator usually punchier than thoose of the G2.
And the CW Mod 2/III has the Waldorf Osc which is a MicroWave Osc.
The new (Mod IV) filters are also great as they are on the Minimax/Pro12.

The best would be to try to build up a similar patch on both system and see how they sound.

If you could give me a link to 2 or 3 patch you really enjoy on the G2 I could give a try to rebuild similar stuff on CW Modular.

The features I most appreciate on the G2 are the morph and the sequencer with Midi outs (thoose from the Mod III cannot send out Midi data to external devices as far as I know).

Meanwhile there are good user made patch sound exampes available on the great cwmodular.org website:
http://cwmodular.org/html/patches.html

Or on the other reference site modularsynth.co.uk :
http://www.modularsynth.co.uk/samples.shtml

Just listen to them.

ian-s · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject:

Does anyone do noodles on Modular III/IV?

hurolura · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject:

buzzr · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:26 am Post subject:

Waiting for JK Superstars opinion also Smile

MusicMesse next year is April 7th? I think I might wait until then to see if Nord releases a G3 :-> Har Har...

hurolura · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:28 am Post subject:

Maybe, maybe not, who knows ... Very Happy

... and maybe a range of downsized/cheaper Xite special edition including the Mod IV as there was the entry level scope Elektra board (3 DSP) in 2001:

http://www.canadapromedia.com/sales/Creamware%20Docs/lunasampler.htm#Elektra

jksuperstar · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject:

I haven't really gotten to the Modular yet, aside from playing several presets.

So far, it's been learning the routing and mixers that exist, all of the synth emulations (Juno, Minimoog, Prophet 5, B2003 organ, etc - Which are all really amazing). The 24/48 and 16/32 mixers are useful, because the last routing program I setup contained 15 different synths, and that still only used 50% of the DSP (each synth was more than mono).

Loading a full routing program takes a minute on my system, though. So changing the routing from song to song may seem a little unrealistic (the equivalent of your entire studio). However, it's pretty easy to setup a full system with loads of synths all setup, and change the preset for anything instantly. And by instantly, I mean as fast as the G2 does variations.

The sound is really stellar from the A/D/As. I am in the midst of expanding with external ADAT / wordclock (A behringer ADA8000), so I'm interested if the wordclock is solid, and if I'll here any different by locking with the XITE's wordclock.

Also, I have a Lexicon MPX-1 (with Lexichip dedicated to reverb) that I could compare directly with the SC_Ambience and other devices in the SCOPE system, and the reverbs are stunning. The tails are smooth, and detail how well both the converters and the model work. I'd like to compare my Evolver to the 'Pro-one' and 'Profit5' models just for the sake of it.

Once I get my grips on the system, I'll spend more time with the modular, and some of the expansions for it. I should say the beta of SCOPE 5.1 is already available, for 64bit only at the time, with the SDK maybe coming simultaneously. It sounds like they're coming this month, but in all seriousness, I wouldn't get to the SDK this year if it was available now. There is so much to learn first.

jksuperstar · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, some of the things I'm enjoying, is that the sample rate can be switched between 32, 44.1, 48, or 96kHz. I have not 'heard' a good reason to go above 48 yet. And 44.1 is truely fine. That saves a lot of CPU cycles for more voices, etc.

I also like the MANY MANY oscillators for the modulay, including a breakdown of the Juno into an OSC module, the waldorf modules, as well as the many filters. It's great to have that variety.