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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:
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HOORAY!!!!!!!!
That's GREAT news!!!
Thanks for the news  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:12 am Post subject:
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Ivity wrote: | Now, i thinking about brand new Intel-based Mac.....  |
Hmm the brainwashing obviously works!
I really loathe Windows XP- but I'm forced to use it because of my work. Hopefully more and more people will finally realise that Macs aren't that 'only good for media' computer image that they have been trying to shake off for so long.
I'm gonna crack open some BEER! _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:
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I never expected so many mac users to be excited over windows
Also, I can see another direction Apple will take with this (hopefully soon)...running OSX on a standard PC...
maybe they just got tired of porting BSD over to their old PPCs, and that's the real reason for the hardware move.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:28 am Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: |
I really loathe Windows XP- but I'm forced to use it because of my work.
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Same situation with me...
But i also think, that having both OS installed in one computer is a very handy thing....
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:35 am Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: |
Also, I can see another direction Apple will take with this (hopefully soon)...running OSX on a standard PC... |
I think this is highly unlikely (unfortunately ), because Apple is making money on new Intel-based hardware... _________________ Igor
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:55 am Post subject:
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smashing...now, if the intel macs could boot OS 9, that would really be something hehe... _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:20 am Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: |
I can see another direction Apple will take with this (hopefully soon)...running OSX on a standard PC... |
Dream on- It'll never happen.
windose RIP  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:21 am Post subject:
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paul e. wrote: | smashing...now, if the intel macs could boot OS 9, that would really be something hehe... |
I think we're all gonna have to return to OS9 just to avoid all those new trojan horses  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:43 am Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | paul e. wrote: | smashing...now, if the intel macs could boot OS 9, that would really be something hehe... |
I think we're all gonna have to return to OS9 just to avoid all those new trojan horses  |
perhaps...i just prefer OS 9's interface..cartoons are ok on saturday morning, but on my computer ? further, one can find a lot of cheap audio gear for OS 9 that works briliiantly...i'm a luddite...all 3 would be cool...OS 9, OSeX and XPee _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:
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Yea! someone finally used the icons...
I don't like XP or OSX.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:34 am Post subject:
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One things for sure- the overall winner here is Apple- as all three operating systems will work on their hardware. I just didn't think it would happen- but it's so cool.
But what I think will be really cool is the OS which now steps in to take the place of these 3 major players. That's gonna be interesting  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:58 am Post subject:
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A proper x86 that will run all current OSes...
FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, XP...
That would be something.
Shame that they don't mention the first two at all. Ho hum, back to the hack.
I wonder how bochs performs on a macintel? Anyone tried.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:
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I heard a good analyst on the radio. He said users don't care about the operating system; they just want to run programs.
Whatever you think, the stock price of AAPL went up 10% on this announcement. It's on its way to recover the recent 25% drop.  _________________ --Howard
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | I heard a good analyst on the radio. He said users don't care about the operating system; they just want to run programs. |
Okay. Well I'm a 'user' and I bought Mac for the OSX/ OS9 operating systems- so he can't be that good an analyst!!
Unfortunately I am forced by 'the powers that be' to use Windows  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:47 am Post subject:
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...Mac OSX for PC?(Metasynth!! ) That will be cool...
Also my favorite OS is Linux (cos' it's FREE and it is BEST) but cannot wait for clavia(G2 usb driver for LINUX???) or digidesign(digi002rack firewire driver???) to wake up one morning, illuminated by the angel of OPEN SOURCE and give us some proper "open" drivers...Hey you!!!BIG manufacturers,don't you want to make more money,and sell your Hardware\Software stuff to the LINUX users????????  |
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:
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This has made it to mainstream news where I am. Everyone seems to be very excited about it.
I have one concern. Is this really good for Mac OS? If people buy macs and run XP on them - what's the point in that? Isn't there a slight danger that people will buy macs, get the dual boot with XP thing, realise that they're running XP more often than Mac OS, since that's where they have all their apps, and then drop the mac for a cheaper solution?
I am not currently a mac owner (will be in a week or so when my new macbook arrives). How long does it take for Mac OS to boot? XP boots superfast.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:16 am Post subject:
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Antimon wrote: | How long does it take for Mac OS to boot? XP boots superfast. |
Apple wants to use flash-memory in their motherboards to store system files in it.
So, the OS boot will be very fast........... (maybe ) _________________ Igor
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:
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Antimon wrote: |
I am not currently a mac owner (will be in a week or so when my new macbook arrives). How long does it take for Mac OS to boot? XP boots superfast. |
Super-dooper fast
Antimon wrote: | I have one concern. Is this really good for Mac OS? If people buy macs and run XP on them - what's the point in that? Isn't there a slight danger that people will buy macs, get the dual boot with XP thing, realise that they're running XP more often than Mac OS, since that's where they have all their apps, and then drop the mac for a cheaper solution? |
I thought I'd already said why I personally need to run XP. I use CAD packages such as Solidworks, PTC Pro/Engineer and Autodesk AutoCAD. It's crap that these apps don't run on OSX at all (but in all fairness Pro/E will run in Linux- I like Linux very much too). So does much of the software that's listed here in the DIY section- runs on Windows only
If I had a choice, I'd stay with OSX- but only because I know it very well- although since installing Ubuntu Linux on my PC, I'm warming to that now.
I'm hoping that this move from Apple will help people realise just how good OSX really is compared with XP, and with the price of XP upgrades coming out nearly every week....
Oh phooey,- they're all good in their own way. XP is clunky but it's okay in small portions (although the music it keeps playing to me as I turn it on or off or how it keeps asking me if I really want to eject a disc from the desktop or what do I want to do with the disk when I've put in in etc etc etc- really makes me wanna puke- or throw it out of the window You will find that OSX doesn't do that- it just lets YOU decide what you want to do- so no wasting time being 'nice'. ).
I think you will see once you've played with your new Mac for a while- how much fun and powerful OSX is- and I doubt that you want to go back after you realise how easy they are to use- compared to Windows
However having a computer that runs all three platforms is a surefire winner in my books. To be honest all computers are a bloody pain in the arse- I think it's time to go back to working on the land!
PS- Get a decent mouse too. OSX works with Mice with x amounts of buttons (unlike the older OS9). I couldn't live without this 3 button and wheel mouse (just like PC). _________________ ACHTUNG!
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v-un-v wrote: | I think you will see once you've played with your new Mac for a while- how much fun and powerful OSX is- and I doubt that you want to go back after you realise how easy they are to use- compared to Windows |
I don't feel that way myself. I prefer the windows manager in XP. I don't care for the top bar that is open for the active window. I think that stuff should be connected to each window. I really like a backspace key. A two button mouse is a good thing too. You can use one with a Mac but the Powerbook touch pad thing has only one button. I've been using OSX and XP for almost two years alternatively and I've yet to warm up to OSX. I've yet to see a single reason to prefer it. I first thought that because it was based on BSD I would love it, but it's been changed around so much that it's very frustrating to use OSX as a Unix system.
Different strokes for different folks.
By the way, Tom, you can configure XP to do whatever you want when you put a CD in. On the little pop up where it asks you what to do, there is a checkbox to tell it to do that everytime, and of course you can tell it to do nothing. _________________ --Howard
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mosc wrote: | By the way, Tom, you can configure XP to do whatever you want when you put a CD in. On the little pop up where it asks you what to do, there is a checkbox to tell it to do that everytime, and of course you can tell it to do nothing. |
thanks Mosc I'll try that. I was beginning to tear my hair out over that! (It's mainly when putting my usb memory stick in- rather than a CD) _________________ ACHTUNG!
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mosc wrote: | Different strokes for different folks. |
Indeed. _________________ ACHTUNG!
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