Waldorf GMBH in trouble?

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:22 am Post subject: Waldorf GMBH in trouble?

Some of you guys have any news and detail info about the state of Waldorf??

How bad is this??

Mohoyoho · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:58 am Post subject:

I think all the small synth manufacturers could find themselves in a similar situation. . . . Novation, Access, Clavia. With the onslaught of great soft synths to compete against it would be hard to keep your head above water. The big companies like Roland, Korg and Yamaha have such a huge line of products and powerful R & D departments, one or two clunkers isn't going to kill them.

mosc · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:23 pm Post subject:

With my heart I hope you are wrong, but with my brain I think your're right.

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:26 pm Post subject:

In general, I do not simply get what Yamaha, Roland and Korg think they are doing. They have a few cute products, but it seems like their main focus is making "big mean polka machines"... not real instruments. And those shift/alt/click/twist calculator interfaces? Even a buttplug is more intuitive than that. Shocked

seraph · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:24 pm Post subject:

well...there is no way to stop the move from hardware to softsynths and these are not necessarily going to be made only by big companies like yamaha, korg or roland (propellerhead, arturia, native instruments are success stories).
I am totally on the softsynth side. In the near future hardware synths will be a thing of the past except for a few snob synthesists that will insist saying that their "boxes" sound better (like those audiophiles insisting on the warmth of vinyl versus CDs).
the market for hardware samplers, for example, is already a graveyard.

seraph · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:30 pm Post subject:

Waldorf, as far as I know, is the only company that first came up with a VST plug in (Attack) and then made its hardware version (Rack Attack).

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:43 pm Post subject:

Creamware did much the same with the Noah?

I have used some of the recent Waldorf synths.. including the Attack. I am far from an expert user, but I was very pleased about the functions, the musicality and the sound of these instruments. I am a fan.

micro · Joined: Mar 01, 2004 Posts: 28 Location: Croatia

For soft synth you need quality sound card. Forget SB live!, maybe audigy 1 or 2 (yeah, right).With soft synths is always some latency, cracking. crashing, I wouldn't use soft synth on live (I'm not kraftwerk:)).There is one pach in micro modular and generator which is the same, its JazzYea. Sonicaly there is slight diference. I'm not a bat Smile

. You need also some controller for soft synth of course.I will allways choose rather tb303 than Rebirth338 softare which is great.Same for waldorf,novation and access plug-ins for pro tools.I will allways choose hardware synths, because they are much simplier in live use and for general use in studio or home. And noise from computer, give me a break.Can you use generator/reaktor on P90, I doubt, but you can use nord modular editor on this machine, and nord modular is portable, sound much clearer, no latency...Korg,roland,yamaha make grooveee shit.But korg made nice ms2000,yamaha nice rm1x for seq, and affordable an1x, roland sucks big time.I'm sorry for waldorf, it was great company, clavia is a bit snobish but also great.

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject:

You are recording this totally in the digital domain , right? Inside the puter? Then the SB Live would work just OK. When it comes to SB products I hear people are messing a lot with the drivers. What works great for some speels instant death on another system. Aren´t these ASIO drivers?

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject:

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

Unless something akin to that new Fairlight I talked about some time back were available, I would not current be comfortable taking softsynths on stage.