The End of Common Practice

bachus · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject:

BTW seraph, the local library is still trying to locate a copy through inter-library loan. I should know in a few more days if they could do it.

seraph · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject:

this copy of Jorgensen's book was discarded by "Queens Borough Public Library" in NY, ended up in Peoria, AZ and now is in Florence, Italy Shocked

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bachus · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject:

BTW you Italians are so lucky: you have both Giotto and fresh true cannoli!

seraph · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:50 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject:

To return to a different ply of this thread, my own experience of my music is that it is very physical, as if it were an act of mind/body integration, a performance of mind/body integration, and an internal visceral dance.

This may be why I can’t grog this purely-intellectual-music thing. It's bothering me that I can't grasp how it could be possible. I would be grateful if someone would continue this thread. And I will not complain if I requires multiple clarifications. Embarassed

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removed irelevant trailing sentence

seraph · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:40 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:58 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:27 am Post subject:

I like to listen to common practice music but I don't like to write it. This is because it is so well-developed that there is already a sort of "gold standard" that I can't easily match, unless I would spend a great deal of effort. I prefer to work directly with electronic sounds in ways that most of the time the concept of notes is a stretch.

Without tonality or modality and definable meter and tempo (the basis of common practice) music can still convey imagery, emotion, tension-release, form and structure.

We are in an era where audiences have enough experience to understand this kind of music.

I suspect that some day in the future it will become so well-defined that musicians will want to do something less restrictive. I think by that time life will have evolved to incorporate cybernetic intelligence and that will change art quite significantly. In the meantime, lets continue making noises that may or may not amuse and inspire whatever and whoever might listen to them in the future.

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:34 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:59 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:09 am Post subject:

Yes, "beginning to understand" is probably a more accurate statement.

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:27 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:31 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:39 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:15 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject:

Homage to Jorgensen

download the .pdf Very Happy

mosc · Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:29 am Post subject:

Antimon · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: