The USA Soils Itself

Scott Stites · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:25 am Post subject:

Yes, ha-ha!, and then all infidels from the coasts will be forced to bow before our majestic financial power!

Cheers,
Scott
(Esconced firmly in Kansas, awaiting the day........)

PS: Is there an emoticon for ululation?

jksuperstar · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Scott Stites · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:

Doobah · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:05 am Post subject:

Surely the terrorists have broken laws of combat (or at least the morals of combat) by not appearing as a recognisable army (ie uniformed as opposed to acting like civilians). By doing this they have endangered their own people. Therefore other laws of combat, such as human rights etc, must be shifted to deal with the threat.

It is an impossible argument as far as their imprisonment goes, the terrorists must be fought and imprisoned, as their offence is a threat against the civilians of 'the west'. The only problem is the human rights issues regarding torture techniques (which seem disastrous, so far as i've been led to believe).

The innocents imprisoned by the west can blame nobody but the terrorists, although the capability and nerve of the western government and army is in serious question.

However, having said this, I believe that this whole issue is no more than a hoax, a conspiracy and a lie. Common people have been manipulated and treated in this way for centuries if not millenia - the only difference now is that communications have improved and the means of combat have changed drastically. Therefore wars and their related propoganda differ immensly from the past, at least on the surface (which is the only thing that anybody under the thumb of the powers that be will ever see)

blue hell · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:

The events of 9/11 weren't a hoax. I know people who were in the WTC at the time. We personally know families that lost fathers and husbands. I saw the site 4 weeks after it happened - I could smell and taste death in the air. It was very real.

Kassen · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:

Rome actually burned down as well, so did the Reichstag.

Clearly neither were hoaxes in any way, in fact both Nero and the Nazi's are universaly respected, eactly because there was real and well documented smoke.

Fozzie · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:33 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:43 am Post subject:

My point is that just because it realy burned down doesn't nesicarily mean it might not still have been a hoax. I demonstrated that by taking two examples of this that were A hoaxes and B are genrelly considdered to have realy burned down.

Kassen · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:52 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:17 am Post subject:

At least with the Reichstag, it is now accepted that the Nazis burned it down and then used it as a rallying cry to round up their political opposition in the name of law and order.

What Bush and the complacent US Congress (sheep) did was to use 9/11 as a rallying cry to seize control of the government, establish a police state, and control the population though fear. In this way, what they did was similar to what the Nazis did, but no matter how much one hates the US government, there is a considerable difference in degree. I've seen some conspiracy theories that the US government organized the 9/11 attacks, but that is pretty far fetched.

But they did take advantage of 9/11. Through negligence and incompetence the Bush administration is responsible for it. (Harry Truman said, "The buck stops here.") Nevertheless, the use of the term hoax is not appropriate in this case.

blue hell · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject:

Theodore Roosevelt wrote to a friend in the year 1897: “In strict confidence … I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one.”

Kassen · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:27 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:08 am Post subject:

IMHO

Al-Qaeda planed and executed the attacks.

The attacks were both strategic and psychological.

The aim was to prompt the US to over-react and invade the Middle East thereby uniting all Islam in a war against the West.

So far, thanks to stupidity, human-nature and paranoia Al-Qaeda is on course.

Fozzie · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject:

jksuperstar · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

Maybe not a hoax, but certainly very well staged. The first plane hits, and from then on, all camera's are focused on the tower. A few minutes later, and a second plane flies in? You can't ask for better publicity to get people's gut into a full on war. Then add the woman screaming on the one footage in particular, and FOX "news" couldn't write something better.

Also, forget about the Saudi's flying around to remove their families from the country, while former president's flights are grounded. There was no knowledge by anyone that this would happen at all.

So, I'd agree that complacency is also an act in itself.

mosc · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

Well, I'm not on his side, of course, but if you review the actions of the last 5 years, I think Osama Bin Ladin has shown himself to be a lot smarter and a much better strategian than George W. Bush - unfortunately.