hoping for a g3 - wave

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:34 am Post subject:

I should add that I think it is slightly amusing that the Clavia modulars have been seen as grand examples of the trend of computer/DAW integration. This is not true as these actually require a computer in order to work as advertised. What Clavia did was saving shitloads of money ditching a lot of tasks to the computer. There is nothing wrong with this of course, and the it is a valid design strategy.

It is also amusing how the lack of true "everything over USB" features have been seen as a flaw in the G2.

The true story is of course that the DAW integration trend was a fad. We are still missing several classes of products and tools in order to truly integrate DAWs with everything else in the studio.

ark · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:49 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:58 am Post subject:

ix · Joined: Jan 15, 2009 Posts: 13 Location: uk

i totally agree with you on many levels , my own wishes are really based on the fact i like the way the nm1 and g2 are designed and really all i was hoping for was more of the same but user wavs as osc - a nice fat internal ram ( 512mb at least ) and a card slot that can auto load a sample bank.....and maybe some stuff like convolution and granular synthesis of user samples.You know its a tricky one , i personally like the idea of a nm3 which has as little to do with a pc or mac as possible beyond the editor , i think they got the balance right myself and its a unique dsp modular in a box with a simple editor , they just need to add user waveforms , some more esoteric synthesis which pulls it into kyma land a little or reaktor style and then we have a g3.I still think ist so odvious what they will do - piggyback nord wave fucntions into the os and call it a g3 wave - it just seems to odvious.We will see . I like the sound of the system you mentioned and agree financially its not the time to be developing anything accept a good relationship with the bank !

peterkadar · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject:

I'm with ix. I think they got the balance right with the G2. I think the less reliance on a computer, the better, and that's how the G2 was an advancement over the G1. At least with the G2, you can tweak and edit your keyboard, and see what you're doing, without ever touching the computer if you don't like.

I think if they move ahead with a G3, I would like to see Wave like sample support, (with large ram)some more esoteric things like granular, and maybe some more physical models as well, ie horn, tine, etc.

I think the other thing that would be cool is if they put greater emphasis on the hardware end of things, like the progression from the NM1 to the G2. I'd like to see maybe some MPC style pads for triggering either sequences or samples, plus a Kaos pad type of XY controller. Really, if they could just graft one of those new little Korg Nano controllers on, that'd be awesome. Oh, and if they doubled the number of buttons below the knobs, they could be configured as up/down buttons, to control virtual drawbars like the electro series!!!

Between that and being able to load user samples, in conjunction with the sequencers they already have, they'd be able to own the hip hop/beat production market.

I'm still in love with my G2, it follows me everywhere I go. And I just got a G2x, which I'm really excited about. Thinking of the difference between the two models also leads me to my final wish: a better keyboard action. The G2x is without a doubt, the best feeling synth action Clavia has ever put into a keyboard. I hope they continue with their unique way of doing things, as well as well as making instruments that are not only great for programming, but also for traditional keyboard players.

boxcolony · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject:

I dreamed of this last night, tried recreating it while slacking at the office. Smile

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ark · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:11 am Post subject:

Where can I buy one? Smile

boxcolony · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject:

ark · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject:

ark · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:22 am Post subject:

peterkadar · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject:

I still think the synth + computer approach is better. You can get a relatively cheap laptop or PC to run the editor, but to build a computer into the synth would be really expensive. Plus, who could agree on what the specs would be, and most importantly, how will the stability be affected, especially once a hard drive is added?

I dig the dual approach they have with the G2. I think if they could incorporate the sample options of the Wave in there, and a few other tweaks, that would be a pretty amazing machine.

Of course, we can always use the midi and signal processing capabilities of our current machines with a decent hardware sampler like a Fantom Xr or a Korg M3-m to get to pretty much the same place, right?

buzzr · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject:

There will be no G3. The modular has been discontinued forever.

Instead, look forward to another Organ, next up is the Trimester...

Tim Kleinert · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:13 am Post subject:

buzzr · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:09 am Post subject:

Yes, well, I still have my G2. Working with a patch I have worked on for about 3 years now. In the meantime, back to Kyma which has taken over my workflow...

peterkadar · Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject:

Well, that's good news. I'm trying to find G2s here in Canada... the more I get into them, the more I love them!!!

buzzr · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:28 am Post subject:

Yes, I would buy a G3 immediately.

Oh well..

mtvic · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject:

By this time I thinks it should be Stage "G4XYZ ModulWaveOrgan"
3 tiered Top: G4
Center: Wave 2 with integrated Stage2
Bottom: C3
All together in a Home Church Hammond type cabinet (RED of course)with integrated computer
Open labs type.
6000.00 US
Would you buy this?
anybody good with photoshop?
lets see it!
m

blue hell · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject:

I'd love to see it, but almost certainly wouldn't have room for it.

buzzr · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject:

How about incorporating a 50's style tv set Shocked

dasz · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject:

I just updated my blofeld with sample playback and I control it from my G2 using midi and process it as well.

OT, I know.
/Dasz

buzzr · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject:

How would you compare the blofield to the G2?

dasz · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:03 am Post subject:

the blofeld has a less bright sound with wailing filters, and filters that bubble and are smooth.

There is more possibilities at different filter/res/env settings than on a g2 filter.

The basic oscillators are quite similar to the g2, the wavetable ones are very smooth and thinner than the basic ones, but that is the nature of the wavetables I suppose.

the blofeld has a bit less low end than the G2's (mind you i'm comparing my blofeld running through the G2 and mixed with the internal g2 sounds).

the samples on the blofeld are clean but not 100% transparent when compared to the original (or when previewed in Spectre).

the real fun starts when you modulate the filters with the samples (as OD Osc 1 modulation). The g2 does not have this built in but you can always use an OD module before the filter and after the filter.

On the blofeld, I route another non sample osciallator through a filter, and the sample one I only apply as modulation (Filter OD via Osc 1), and the results are quite impressive. A piano sample can make the filter have piano like transients, and envelope. The other filter OD curves (I think there are over 6) have different characteristics,

I do not mind the 2 outputs as I can route different signals through each one independently giving me 2 mono outputs which I then route through the G2.

THe blofeld is a good little box to add a different characters, and control with your G2.

I like it. I sold my waldorf xt which I did not like quite as much.
/Dasz

buzzr · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:16 am Post subject:

yes, i use max/msp with the G2 now with really good results with sampling, granulating, etc..

celadine · Joined: Jul 11, 2006 Posts: 5 Location: unknown dimensions

The apathy is resounding. 'Yeah, G3, like Clavia shouldn't do it and won't do it and its a bad idea anyway and costs too much for them and its too much trouble and would suck anyway' I hope the Clavia people aren't taking you all seriously, they'd throw any kind of G3 prototype in the trash. Sheesh. Rolling Eyes

Tim Kleinert · Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:18 am Post subject: