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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: 21st Century Music - Italian electronic music site Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://www.21stcenturymusic.it/Start.asp?L=1

From the site:

"In January 1990 the passion for the Electronic music, a distant kind from the clamors and the excesses of the music-business, takes to publish a fanzine that talks exclusively Electronic, New-age and Ambient Music: its name is 21st Century Music, the only one publication at that epoch (amatorial and not) to talk about authors like Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Software and others, unknown names to large public of radios and discos.
Since the first issue (dated January 1990), to today, 21st C.M. has showed in its ten years and beyond of activity hundreds of reviews of albums and concerts, in tens of interviews and profiles of authors, with the specific intent that most of people knows and appreciate the kinds written in its pages, more and more forgotten by the musical magazines and by the nedias in an oblivion from which rescues only to compare emergent names of the musical scene that they ransack by handfulls from sonorities and timbre experimented in the past from who, from always, plays electronic and ambient.
Since its publication, 21st C.M. has known how to focus around itself a good staff of collaborators who, with competence and seriousness, have known how to give this initiative a worthy professionalism of a real magazine.
Thanks to the passion that has always marked our work, 21st C.M. has known how to withstand for ten years and beyond, period in which instead different other publications were born and dead exploiting the boom of popularity that New-Age has had in the first half of the years ninety.
The increase of the contacts with artists and labels foreign too, proposals of new projects and the consequent work to try to realize them, have transformed a simple hobby in a more engagement, that has carried 21st C.M. to complete its more important step, becoming Cultural Association without the sake of gain.
The intents are unchanged, with an ulterior widening toward complementary kinds like soundtracks, instrumental and ethnic music, as long as they are within the canons of electronic and new-age music. "

Hmm.. they don´t know about electro-music.com, do they?

Carlo? you know these guys? Most of the site is in italian and I guess the italian text is more informative.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Software and others, unknown names to large public of radios and discos.


These aren't the "unknown names". These are the big commercial powerhouses. These are the mainstream professional electronic music acts; very slick. These are the guys that do get radio play. I never cared for any of these; lots of pads and noodles - endless repeating sequences and noodles - repeating drum beats and noodles - too tame for me. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I was like thinking about the italian dudes running the site... but I see your point.. the site caters for the serious and proper names in the field.


Apart from Vangelis and Jarre I guess the rest can hardly be called commercial powerhouses. or am I wrong? This list seems to have become synonymous with electronic music.. or rather with a breed called EM. But..... these are not unknown names at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you Stein for sharing your unlimited internet knowledge with us.
I did not know that site.
I wrote to them inviting them to join our forums Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

THX carlo!

Laughing


When I see such lists ... like TD ( polka anyone?), Vangelis, Jarre etc etc. you can bet that Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co will not in the list.. sad Sad

http://www.mothermallard.cornell.edu/history.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I read al the "History-The Early Years" By David Borden
it's very interesting
I tried to listen to the musical samples:
Enfield in Summer (David Borden, 1978)  
The Continuing Story of Counterpoint, Part 4 (David Borden, 1983)
Double Portrait (David Borden, 1987)
The Continuing Story of Counterpoint, Part 8A (David Borden, 1979)
but I received only an error message telling me that the link is outdated or inaccurate. Is that so?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

One link works.. from their page at cunei..something records website

I have their stuff. Nice.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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One link works.. from their page at cunei..something records website

I have their stuff. Nice.

Thanks for the tip
http://cuneiformrecords.com/bandshtml/borden.html Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The one song there is quite minimalistic but it is very nice. There is a certain smartness to it which I like.

Who knows.. I guess there is a slight chance for Howard having heard MMPC live back then. I have no idea how well known they are in the US but over here they are pretty high profile. Any list of electronic music acts will include the MMPC.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wow Shocked Shocked
this cuneiform records thing is a gold mine!
in the 70's as a teenager I was a Soft Machine/Nucleus fan (I still am).
Those guys are responsible to have shifted my musical attention from pop music (Jefferson Airplane, Genesis, Gentle Giant and stuff like that) to jazz. They were the link that made possible for me to go from Selling England By The Pound (Genesis) to Impression (John Coltrane). I am listening to Elton Dean's Blind Badger that I had on vinyl (LP).
I used it once to convince a girl that I wasn't good for her: after I told her I liked this music she vanished, gone for good Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cuneiform is top notch stuff!

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in the 70's as a teenager I was a Soft Machine/Nucleus fan (I still am).


Same here. I see Cuneiform also has Matching Mole. Great fun.



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I am listening to Elton Dean's Blind Badger that I had on vinyl (LP).
I used it once to convince a girl that I wasn't good for her: after I told her I liked this music she vanished, gone for good


Hmmm... VDGG: La Rossa ( from the Still Life LP ) worked wonders for me. Strongly recommended. BTW: I have to add Can: Monster Movie to that list too. That LP is really state of the art as girl repellant.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

too bad I sold all my old LP's (by Soft Machine, Nucleus, Gong, Henry Cow etc.) when I started listening to straight acoustic jazz.
You know, I had to be an ORTHODOX JAZZ LISTENER. No strange stuff was allowed Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oooooh. but I take it you have recovered from that?

Jazz is ok. I like many strains of jazz. Great stuff. Some of the "orthodox" stuff is quite interesting. BTW: Do you remember those "direct to disk" recordings? I remember I got that Charlie Byrd recording on Crystal Clear Records. Some of those recordings were pretty ok.

I was a big fan of a lot of the Verve material myself.


-Reminds me that there are some Miles Davis CDs on sale at the local CD shop. I have to get those.. fast..
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oooooh. but I take it you have recovered from that?
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I went on jazz overdose a long time ago.
now I can not stand the classic " tin tin-ti tin-tin-ti tin" rhythm anymore.
Of course I still love the classics like Bill Evans (the piano player) and many others but now I am against ANY kind of orthodoxy whatsoever Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mother Mallard played in Philadelphia at a Gathering a couple of months ago. I wan't able to attend because of some conflict. Apparently, from what I was told and I may have gotten it wrong, they pretty much played their old stuff exactly as they did it 30 years ago. I wish I could have made that concert.

Im writing this from Atlanta, Georga. My brother is having a big party so se decided to fly down.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, I was at the Mother Mallard show in Philadelphia.
I remembered them from the early days too.
They played their old arrangements, but with modern synths e.g. triton, not modulars. They also did a couple of new things with guest artists on violin and electric guitar.
It was very interesting to see this kind of music played note for note from written notation.
That's rare for electronic music!
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